You've got my support. Just think of me as...as your... You know, I'm searching for 'supportive things' and I'm coming up all bras.

Xander ,'Empty Places'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


sumi - Mar 14, 2009 8:37:16 am PDT #7230 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Apparently, finding a bird in your house is a portent of a death in your family. So maybe Zack hadn't died yet.


le nubian - Mar 14, 2009 8:57:32 am PDT #7231 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

oh! interesting.


Jessica - Mar 14, 2009 10:24:43 am PDT #7232 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I was so not ready for that ep to end where it did - I was *sure* there was another act still to go!

Unfortunately, that also means that I completely didn't digest this ep and should probably watch it again. (Oh no. The horror.)


sumi - Mar 14, 2009 10:34:29 am PDT #7233 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Another idea (I read at TWOP) is that the bird is trapped in his house much as Lee has felt trapped in his role as fighter pilot and son of his father.

But I can't help it, I really liked seeing him back in uniform.


Theodosia - Mar 14, 2009 12:49:06 pm PDT #7234 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Me, I thought the pigeon flew in from an SCC plot.


sumi - Mar 14, 2009 1:12:15 pm PDT #7235 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Hee.

There was a 51% chance that Lee wouldn't kill the bird.


Polter-Cow - Mar 14, 2009 1:57:07 pm PDT #7236 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

That line cracked me up.


quester - Mar 14, 2009 6:23:32 pm PDT #7237 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

I thought the Lee bird scene was his returning home after the dinner with Kara and Zak, because his "double-dog dare you" line sounded like he was echoing something funny that had happened between the three of them. The bird could be a lot of things, and after reading a lot of TWOP, I think it was all of the things that have been suggested: Kara, death, freedom, the desire for flight in both senses, the thing -whatever- that is always just out of reach for him.


quester - Mar 14, 2009 6:42:20 pm PDT #7238 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

Is anyone else watching Ashes to Ashes on BBCA?


victor infante - Mar 14, 2009 8:16:56 pm PDT #7239 of 30001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

I think it was all of the things that have been suggested: Kara, death, freedom, the desire for flight in both senses, the thing -whatever- that is always just out of reach for him.

Agreed. I think, in a lot of ways, I lean toward the scene being set after Zack's death, as so much of the flashbacks seem to be about the characters' past dealings with loss and family, but it really works for all of the above.