Harken: You fought with Captain Reynolds in the war? Zoe: Fought with a lot of people in the war. Harken: And your husband? Zoe: Fight with him sometimes, too.

'Bushwhacked'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


§ ita § - Mar 01, 2009 4:36:20 pm PST #7024 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Suela, that's where I saw the rec.

I was flashing on Baz Lurhman's Romeo + Juliet.

Richard III with Ian McKellen, for me, once I found out the premise.

the marketing is exactly not the sort of thing to get me to tune in.

Do you think explaining the alternate universe thing would turn off more people than on? Because it piqued my interest mightily. Before knowing that, I thought it was a story of an American soldier earning the indebtedness of a European monarch. And that wasn't doing the show many favours.


sumi - Mar 01, 2009 4:49:24 pm PST #7025 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

I could tell it was an AU America thing from the ads.

I must be the market!


§ ita § - Mar 01, 2009 4:55:30 pm PST #7026 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

From those one or two NBC spots? How?


sumi - Mar 01, 2009 4:57:01 pm PST #7027 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Well, it looked like America - except it had a king.


§ ita § - Mar 01, 2009 4:57:40 pm PST #7028 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I failed to get the "looked like America" thing. They all look like America. Or, well, Vancouver.


sumi - Mar 01, 2009 5:00:13 pm PST #7029 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

How many shows on regular tv aren't set in the USofA? Even Flashpoint seems to try to hide that fact that it's in Canada.


§ ita § - Mar 01, 2009 5:02:33 pm PST #7030 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Flashpoint shows Canadian newspapers and the Toronto skyline. I was quite startled by that. But too many Americans for the accent to pervade.

In my head, NBC is more likely to make a series about an American soldier abroad than an alternate reality. The truth would never have occurred to me.


Dana - Mar 01, 2009 5:07:47 pm PST #7031 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Even Flashpoint seems to try to hide that fact that it's in Canada.

They call people Constable, and there have been other cues that they're in Toronto. It was startling, because usually they totally pretend to not be in Canada.


Jessica - Mar 01, 2009 5:26:40 pm PST #7032 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I failed to get the "looked like America" thing. They all look like America. Or, well, Vancouver.

Kings is very obviously shot in and around NYC, which I appreciate. (Except for the palace entrance being the steps in front of the Brooklyn Museum because anyone who's been there knows that those steps don't actually lead anywhere and are purely for show. It's distracting to see them used as a front door.)

NBC seems to be selling some vague "what if there were....KINGS? Also random butterflies!" thing when they should be selling it as West-Wing-meets-Rome.

Ep 2 holds up well. There are a few more "As we both know, Bob" scenes than I normally like, but it's excusable this early in the season, and the tidbits they drop are pretty juicy. (And more than there were in the pilot, which seems to have been written more as a standalone TV movie than as the first episode in a series.)


Hayden - Mar 01, 2009 5:33:38 pm PST #7033 of 30001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Thanks for the rec, Jessica! I was going to tune because of Ian McShane, but the ads really do look bad.