a little too heavy in the ship=Roslin

I didn't pick that up at all. I barely remember her in the ep, beyond signing Boomers extradition papers and collapsing at the end.

Interestingly, Bear mentioned that a Roslin/Adama subplot got completely cut from the ep.

does this make any sense?

makes sense to me! Although I'm not sure that it then follows that her father was Daniel . . . could be that her father was a child of Daniel or one of the other Final Five, and Starbuck is 1/4 cylon.

eta that I hope he is Daniel because Roark is hot!

Adama says something like "I'm not giving up on this ship" and then we cut to a reaction shot of Roslin in the same room.

Then when Galactica get a hole in the side, she passes out. I just wish they had softened that a little. I get that Roslin and Galactica are both dying.

gotcha. Still don't mind it.

Wild spec: with Galactica being repaired with the cylon goo, the ship gains sentience and becomes the "dying leader" who will lead them to [a safe haven].

Or, or, we could repair Roslin with cylon goo. What? It worked before!

I thought Roslin's grief at the end had something to do with her connection to Hera and the child being ripped away. Didn't she say Hera's name?

I love the idea of Gallactica becoming Moya. Or, at least, sentient. Every other piece of metal seems to be...why not her?

I really wish Nicky had never been written into the show in the first place. Because the way he was written out pretty much guarantees that I'm going to feel no sympathy for Tyrol losing his imaginary daughter after fucking abandoning his REAL STILL ALIVE CHILD. Not his biologically, sure, but he was Nicky's parent for 2 years. He doesn't get to walk away from that and take any of my sympathy with him.

I hate the whole BTW-not-your-baby storyline, but, if they did want to go there, it would have been way more meaningful to have it not be Hotdog and instead have the "real" father come in and take Nicky away from Tyrol.

I really don't like that they had to reinstate Hera's snowflakeness because of what whiffs of writers not paying attention to themselves.

But they didn't have to make Chief an ass to accomplish that. They could at least indicate he gives a fuck about the child of his dead wife. Combined with his behaviour this ep, I am less sympathetic for him than for, say, Gaeta. He's a weak-willed, selfish idiot.

Yeah, I loved Chief, which is why I'm so pissed at where he ended up, because this was just so not on.

You know, I feel kind of stupid because I forgot about Nicky, too. As a viewer, I'm allowed to forget about the child: but his father isn't. So, yeah. I'm suddenly much less sympathetic to Tyrol.

This is going to be an xpost (Natter and BS) because I honestly have no idea where this show belongs. I'd probably say it "transcends genre" if that phrase didn't make me grind my teeth - there's one blink-and-you'll-miss it brush with magical realism, but the bulk of the show is politics and family drama. On the other hand, it takes place in the fictional Kingdom of Gilboa, soooo....yeah. The show it most reminds me of is Rome.

Kings premieres on NBC in two weeks, and the promos have been at best confusing and at worst off-putting. But the show itself is AWESOME. I wish it were on cable where it would survive, because I have a feeling nobody will watch it due to NBC's total fucking up of the marketing effort and it will get canceled just as its getting interesting.

The worldbuilding in this show is astonishingly strong. The writing is solid, the characters well-drawn, and the acting is good across the board. And there's really nothing else like it on TV right now.

So far I've only seen the pilot - I have the next 2 eps as well, and if the show goes completely off the rails I'll take back everything I just posted. But I really hope it doesn't, because I want to know where this story goes.