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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


sumi - Jan 25, 2009 9:45:20 am PST #6429 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Well, Ellen made some comment about how it was a good thing that they didn't have kids - but I don't know whether that meant that it just never happened (if you're married and you never had kids - you're CYLONS!) or that they never wanted them, i.e., made the decision to not have them.

But, perhaps the visions sent them to Earth that Was so that the final five could realize who they were and get those memories back. . . in a way to help history NOT repeat. (Not working so well so far.)

In only slightly bsg related news - check out the Cylon sock yarn and the cool socks that the Yarn Harlot made with her "Eye of Jupiter" sock yarn. (Scroll down -you'll see them.)


Polter-Cow - Jan 25, 2009 9:47:27 am PST #6430 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Very interesting, Tom! I love John August because of Go. And hey, one of the producers was Dan Etheridge, who produced VM. Which explains a certain cameo.


le nubian - Jan 25, 2009 9:56:38 am PST #6431 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

So...I could not finish the BSG podcast because Moore's wife was on. Can someone tell me if there is good stuff after minute 5? When she interrupted his train of thought, I bailed. I just couldn't take her anymore.


JenP - Jan 25, 2009 10:08:25 am PST #6432 of 30001

Oh god, LeN. I feel your pain. Nothing against the woman personally, of course, but she completely detracts from the pod casts. It was really light on ep talk. He even kind of acknowledged that at the end, saying that he would talk more about the ep on the DVD extended version. I wouldn't roll my eyes so much if she had anything to add about the eps but she just goes off on tangents.


Jessica - Jan 25, 2009 11:50:13 am PST #6433 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I've only listened to half of it so far, LeN, and I totally agree. She annoys the living crap out of me.


JenP - Jan 25, 2009 1:08:01 pm PST #6434 of 30001

Sorry, I was phone posting before.

He talked mostly about how it was to direct for the first time (and actually look through a camera for the first time ever), how he prepared, shooting choices, how certain days/scenes went. One cute thing - their kids were extas in the Baltar blah-blah scene. I can't really remember any good or juicy ep/story talk.

Oh, and he talked about (potentially spoilery, I guess, for the rest of the season):

why they chose to go with Tyrol not being Nicky's bio-dad - basically, it's because they'd set Hera up in the mythology of the show as The One True Hybrid, and she has A Special Role in everything. So, that was interesting, and hence, Hot Dog. Or, at least, I found it interesting because I'd started to wonder whether they were ever going to do anything about Hera and her specialness now that she had competition.


Polter-Cow - Jan 25, 2009 1:16:18 pm PST #6435 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Yeah, that certainly seemed like the motivation. Especially because it doesn't sound like they started thinking about doing the Final Five storyline until season three, and they'd already created Nicky at the end of season two. So they wanted Tyrol as a Cylon but had to get around making Nicky another hybrid eventually.


JenP - Jan 25, 2009 1:20:51 pm PST #6436 of 30001

Heh. I whitefonted because Jessica continued podcast talk over in Spoilers. Is that a hard and fast rule, or a judgment thing? I mean, clearly, if he had dropped some huge spoiler or hint at something, I wouldn't post it. Is whitefont podcast OK? I just can't remember and don't have the heart to scroll back.


§ ita § - Jan 25, 2009 1:30:21 pm PST #6437 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If it hasn't broadcast on TV, it shouldn't be here. Well, if it points to future developments, and I think that does. Even though it's exactly as I surmised. Bad Ron Moore.


le nubian - Jan 25, 2009 1:42:12 pm PST #6438 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Ron drops spoilers in his podcasts and interviews. For example, his interviews with Mo Ryan have a fair number of spoilers in them. So, I think you were right to whitefont.