Well, lady, I must say-- You're my kinda stupid.

Mal ,'Heart Of Gold'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

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Jessica - Jan 17, 2009 1:04:09 pm PST #6253 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I'm willing to accept the mythology as it's being given (that is to say, incompletely), but the word "Cylon" seems to be undergoing a pretty serious redefinition.


§ ita § - Jan 17, 2009 2:04:02 pm PST #6254 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I will be disappointed if they're all Cylons. Too muchh futility for me.


Polter-Cow - Jan 17, 2009 2:23:15 pm PST #6255 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

The fact that the 13th tribe was Cylon doesn't mean they're ALL Cylon, right? The 13th tribe came from Kobol like all the others, but it doesn't mean the other twelve tribes weren't human. I am beginning to suspect that the Lords of Kobol were Cylons, though.


beekaytee - Jan 17, 2009 2:35:53 pm PST #6256 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

I will be disappointed if they're all Cylons. Too muchh futility for me.

But it does present an interesting existential challenge. If it turns out that we are _all_ the enemy, then what use is our judgement against the enemy? Mass self-destruction is one option but letting go of hate is another.

I can't believe I'm being sucked back into BSG when I had so resolutely given it up.

What's next? Loving Lost?

I appear to have no will.


le nubian - Jan 17, 2009 2:38:50 pm PST #6257 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

you're one of us

one of us

one of us


beekaytee - Jan 17, 2009 2:41:08 pm PST #6258 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

Dude.

By your command.


§ ita § - Jan 17, 2009 2:48:25 pm PST #6259 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If it turns out that we are _all_ the enemy, then what use is our judgement against the enemy? Mass self-destruction is one option but letting go of hate is another.

They've already made an alliance with some of them. That takes the punch out of it for me.


Stephanie - Jan 17, 2009 3:03:00 pm PST #6260 of 30001
Trust my rage

I am enjoying BSG and was actually liking Dee there for a bit (that's sayng a lot) but I am seriously confused about what is a "Cylon". At least the seven models have glowing spines but the others, besides being 2000 years old, are indistinguishable from humans? So how, exactly the , are they Cylons?


Juliebird - Jan 17, 2009 3:04:19 pm PST #6261 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I realize now that my theory of them all be decendants of cylons was off. Could still be true, but I'd forgotten that all the colonies had come from Kobol (for some reason I was thinking they'd all come from Earth).

Now, is there a reason they can't go back to pretty pretty Kobol now that they're not trying to kill each other?


§ ita § - Jan 17, 2009 3:04:34 pm PST #6262 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't think any of them have glowing spines anymore.