Mal: Yeah, well, just be careful. We cheated Badger out of good money to buy that frippery, and you're supposed to make me look respectable. Kaylee: Yes, sir, Captain Tightpants.

'Shindig'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

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beekaytee - Jan 17, 2009 12:17:51 pm PST #6246 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

I'm low on lore too, but it seemed pretty blatant that the truth will be that the problem isn't that there is no Earth, but that there are no humans.

Which makes Adama's speech even more poignant.

What do you decide to be when you find out you aren't you? That shit is deep.

It also screams of Planet of the Apes and Pogo. "We have seen the face of the enemy and it is us."


Sophia Brooks - Jan 17, 2009 12:23:43 pm PST #6247 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I am annoyed that I got spoiled by the comments about the webisodes on hulu! I tried to write it off, but the comment was right. Reminds me of the time when I was spoiled for Tara's death by imdb (it put an end date of the actress's time on the show before they showed her death.


§ ita § - Jan 17, 2009 12:30:16 pm PST #6248 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It didn't bring me to the conclusion that there are no humans, otherwise there wouldn't be a human/Cylon test. Now, how come there were Cylons millenia ago I don't get. But I expect that will come out in time.


le nubian - Jan 17, 2009 12:40:07 pm PST #6249 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

well, there are different kinds of cylons though. so the test that Baltar developed was to discern the 7. I would bet it doesn't work on the 5.


§ ita § - Jan 17, 2009 12:47:21 pm PST #6250 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Fair enough. They must have been tested. But it could discern the old ones they used to be...


victor infante - Jan 17, 2009 1:01:31 pm PST #6251 of 30001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

It didn't bring me to the conclusion that there are no humans, otherwise there wouldn't be a human/Cylon test. Now, how come there were Cylons millenia ago I don't get. But I expect that will come out in time.

There's been a constant refrain throughout the series: "This has all happened before." One suspects now it's literal.


le nubian - Jan 17, 2009 1:03:27 pm PST #6252 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

yes, and if this all has happened before, it would explain Roslin's visions - and perhaps Baltar's as well. Maybe they all have been reincarnated.


Jessica - Jan 17, 2009 1:04:09 pm PST #6253 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I'm willing to accept the mythology as it's being given (that is to say, incompletely), but the word "Cylon" seems to be undergoing a pretty serious redefinition.


§ ita § - Jan 17, 2009 2:04:02 pm PST #6254 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I will be disappointed if they're all Cylons. Too muchh futility for me.


Polter-Cow - Jan 17, 2009 2:23:15 pm PST #6255 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

The fact that the 13th tribe was Cylon doesn't mean they're ALL Cylon, right? The 13th tribe came from Kobol like all the others, but it doesn't mean the other twelve tribes weren't human. I am beginning to suspect that the Lords of Kobol were Cylons, though.