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Ash - Jan 14, 2009 3:08:57 pm PST #6183 of 30001

but the unrelenting grimness of it all is more than a little off-putting

This is very much how I feel. I appreciate the storytelling that I've seen, but I am so not in a place where I can wallow in unrelenting grimness. Even the show's palette depresses me.

I may watch it anyway, but yeah.

Ash, did you watch Peacekeeper Wars too?

Yes, just a couple of weeks ago. It's been a long time since I've been that happy with the ending of a show, for several reasons.


JenP - Jan 14, 2009 3:22:34 pm PST #6184 of 30001

I don't know why the grim doesn't bother me, but I'm glad it doesn't.

I realized that I don't really like any of the characters.

This is the problem that I had with Grey's Anatomy. Except Bailey.


§ ita § - Jan 14, 2009 3:25:18 pm PST #6185 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

This is the problem that I had with Grey's Anatomy. Except Bailey.

They have me as long as they have Kevin McKidd. Mmmm.

I feel just like Jilli about BSG. I like it enough to watch it, but I don't feel the love most watchers I know seem to. And I've only once made the mistake of watching more than one ep in a day. Too much. No fun.


Ginger - Jan 14, 2009 3:27:18 pm PST #6186 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I never liked Baltar, but it's gotten to the point that any ending that doesn't involve his being drawn and quartered will be unsatisfactory to me.


Morgana - Jan 14, 2009 3:47:34 pm PST #6187 of 30001
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

I made the comment once on another board that BSG was a bit, you know, grim and depressing and not really what I look for in escapist viewing. I was told quite emphatically that it was war for God's sake, and the almost-annihilation of the human race -- it's not supposed to be fun! But these are people that didn't just drink the kool-aid, they swilled it, and are convinced that this is just the perfectest show that ever existed, and no opposing viewpoints are to be allowed. I watch it, sometimes, and I was drawn into the occupation episodes, but yeah... not really something to view lightly.


Consuela - Jan 14, 2009 3:59:53 pm PST #6188 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I respect BSG more than I enjoy it, and I think a lot of that has to do with the grim tone. I'll watch to the end, but it's never been something that I got a lot of joy out of.


sumi - Jan 14, 2009 4:00:31 pm PST #6189 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

My problem with Peacekeeper Wars is how clearly you can see the various storylines that they would have pursued in greater depth had they been given even half of a fifth season.


Juliebird - Jan 14, 2009 4:03:44 pm PST #6190 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

My problem with Peacekeeper Wars was how Gigi Edgely never seemed to find her way back into Chiana.


Atropa - Jan 14, 2009 4:08:16 pm PST #6191 of 30001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

ita is spot-on about how watching multiple episodes of BSG in one day is rough. Aaaand ... We watched ten episodes in three nights. I was not a happy goth, let me tell you.


JenP - Jan 14, 2009 4:08:33 pm PST #6192 of 30001

It's so funny, because I can completely understand finding the show too grim, the characters unlikable, etc., but it's like they pipe crack through the TV tubes right into my living room right before each show (and bridge doses while on hiatus), because there is very little that I don't love unreservedly about the show. Someone has a valid criticism? I'm all, "Yeah, you're totally right! But I don't care, because I am in love, and love is blind."

Having said that, it's, you know, fiction. And a TV show. There's only so much import with which it can be imbued in my world, even though it is one of my most-loved fictional TV shows, and I care enough to post about it online and buy DVDs and stuff. Sure, metaphor for whatever-the-fuck modern society, blah-blah (I don't discount that, it's just not why I love it, so I don't often examine if through that filter.) Still, just because I love it, doesn't mean I don't get why others don't. People who take it so seriously that they get mad when other people don't like it or offer a criticism or two - that, I don't get.

Also? YAY TWO MORE DAYS YAY!!