It's like, in the middle of all this, I'm paranoid that you'll think I don't like poetry.

Buffy ,'Empty Places'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

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sumi - Nov 18, 2008 5:35:30 am PST #5401 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Also, I think that he's lost some weight.


Jon B. - Nov 18, 2008 5:38:12 am PST #5402 of 30001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Googling just led me to that answer. Thanks. I rarely watched TWW and so couldn't place the actor.


Theodosia - Nov 18, 2008 6:15:43 am PST #5403 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Whoever he was, he knocked the role out of the ballpark.


Dana - Nov 18, 2008 7:08:27 am PST #5404 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Oh, I immediately went OMG TOBY! But I've been watching West Wing a lot recently.

What did Charlie do to get sent away for life, and would he have done it but for Jessie and Derek? Sounds like he might not have done it but for Derek, because by the time Jessie came back he had done it.

It was a great use of time-travel, where trying to prevent an event causes an event.

And I can't remember if it was here or on LJ that someone said Sarah needed to interact with a peer, but they nailed that too.


Jon B. - Nov 18, 2008 7:33:36 am PST #5405 of 30001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

It was a great use of time-travel, where trying to prevent an event causes an event.

I don't see how this was so. Toby went back in time and broke in to the computer before he was captured. Warren gets sent to prison for what Toby did.

Ohhh -- you mean that Toby tortured Derek in the future as payback for what Derek did to Warren! Duhh! I completely missed that until just now.


Dana - Nov 18, 2008 7:38:41 am PST #5406 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Warren also tried to show the Homeland Security people where he had been captured and tortured, which I'm sure didn't help his case.


Polter-Cow - Nov 18, 2008 7:43:03 am PST #5407 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Ohhh -- you mean that Toby tortured Derek in the future as payback for what Derek did to Warren! Duhh! I completely missed that until just now.

Oh, I totally didn't get that either!


Theodosia - Nov 18, 2008 7:44:20 am PST #5408 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Derek's speech about it being harder to watch somebody else be tortured than be tortured takes on an extra meaning, no?


Dana - Nov 18, 2008 7:47:19 am PST #5409 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

And also (god, time travel makes my head hurt):

Toby went back in time and broke in to the computer before he was captured.

Yes, but bringing Warren into it might mean that Jesse and Derek were the cause of Warren's willingness to collaborate with the robots. Or part of the cause. And then Warren becomes Toby, who goes back in time and breaks into the computer.

Man, the scene with those robots standing there, being lectured, with their glowing eyes...


Polter-Cow - Nov 18, 2008 7:49:17 am PST #5410 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

It looked like Grand Rounds.