Xander: Hey, Red. What you got in the basket, little girl? Buffy: Weapons.

Xander/Buffy ,'Help'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Frankenbuddha - Feb 26, 2008 5:50:47 am PST #499 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I have massive love for that ep.

I think it was the first Sealab I ever saw. I was hooked immediately.


tiggy - Feb 26, 2008 5:58:50 am PST #500 of 30001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

Ah, but if Kyle Reese doesn't go back in time and warn Sarah Connor about Skynet, then Judgement Day happens anyway because nobody was trying to stop it.

mmmm...good point.

And I have to say, I find the producers' statements I've seen to the effect that the films aren't all consistent, so the show doesn't have to be, somewhat lazy.

this.

giving a 1997 date for that scene is definitely going to raise a fuss among Terminator fans

also this.


sumi - Feb 26, 2008 6:28:55 am PST #501 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

I loved the scene at the end with Derek watching Cameron dance.

Also, the name of the episode was "The Demon Hand" - clearly it should have been called "Evil Hand" or "Evil Hand Issues."


Laura - Feb 26, 2008 6:41:17 am PST #502 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

if they DO stop Skynet and prevent Judgement Day, Kyle Reese will never be sent into the past & John Connor will never be born in the first place

Hush, that's the final episode where Sarah Connor is a mild mannered accountant with 3 daughters.

I love time travel wonkiness. Just love, don't overthink.


Jon B. - Feb 26, 2008 6:54:35 am PST #503 of 30001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Are people really getting worked up over time paradoxes? Don't you know that it's all just wibbly-wobbly... timey-wimey... Stuff?


Ailleann - Feb 26, 2008 6:55:58 am PST #504 of 30001
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

Are people really getting worked up over time paradoxes?

Have you met us?


tiggy - Feb 26, 2008 7:36:54 am PST #505 of 30001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

i'm not getting worked up over paradoxes. they're inevitable when it comes to time travel shtuff. what i am getting worked up over is the writers changing history for no apparent reason.


Jon B. - Feb 26, 2008 8:38:13 am PST #506 of 30001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

What history? The writers are saying that the TV show has separate continuity from the movies. Handwave! Poof! History is gone!

If it worked for Buffy, why not SCC?


Nora Deirdre - Feb 26, 2008 9:15:06 am PST #507 of 30001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

Oh, speaking of Buffy, when we were watching Torchwood- "Adam" last night, upon first seeing Adam, Tom said, "hey, that guy looks a little like Joss Whedon. Which is entirely appropriate given that they ripped off a storyline from his show!"

I liked Jonathan better than Adam, though.


Frankenbuddha - Feb 26, 2008 9:18:20 am PST #508 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Someone noted on another board I was reading that they even added a couple shots of Adam to the credits, so they really seriously lifted from Superstar.