Buffy: You tossed that vamp like he was a... little teeny vamp. Riley: You wanna go again? C'mon. I bet this place is just teeming with aerodynamic vampires.

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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Juliebird - Sep 23, 2008 5:14:10 pm PDT #4834 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Jo/Zane: for a minute or two there I really thought they were caving to the Season 2 Zane hate and breaking them up, which I thought was just awful since I've come to kinda like him, but once they got back together, I hated him again, already missing the idea of Jo as a free woman. I really did enjoy them fighting though, because it meant that Jo wasn't being all season 2 on us, except that in the end she totally was. le sigh.

At least this time Zane wasn't a total slimeball.


quester - Sep 23, 2008 5:25:24 pm PDT #4835 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

Eva traveled all the way to Farmington LA on the Shield where she is Beaver's mother. (from Veronica Mars)


sumi - Sep 23, 2008 6:53:55 pm PDT #4836 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Hmmm, when Beaver is done on The Shield I wonder if he'll be appearing as Kid Flash in Smallville. (They mentioned him last week.)


Vortex - Sep 23, 2008 8:42:54 pm PDT #4837 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I'm sure that Carter will stay in Eureka, and continue to be the town savior even though he's not sheriff anymore. They will probably not promote Jo again, and she will again be pissed :)


§ ita § - Sep 23, 2008 9:17:03 pm PDT #4838 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm convinced that tonight's "Fringe" ep came before last week's in terms of chronology.

Why?

relocating to a safer town

Well, we know that's not happening. Frankly, I don't see his place in town without being sheriff, and since they're not losing their star in the middle of the season it hadn't occurred to me he wasn't going to be reinstated sooner or later. But I guess there are ways around it. Remains to be seen...eventually.


Fay - Sep 23, 2008 11:04:38 pm PDT #4839 of 30001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

I'm afraid I thought she was a bit nondescript, to be honest. Pleasant enough, but not the great beauty and consort of legend. Not yet, anyway.

Ah well. Glad to hear she wasn't a vortex of suckitude: sounds like she's had to work very hard to get to where she's at, so it's nice that she's got a mainish role in a BBC thing with well-known people. Go Team, and all that. (How are they working in the fact that she's biracial? Is it just not being mentioned, tra-la-la, in the manner of Stargate, or are they going for a The-Celts-are-darker-skinned thing? I'd quite like it if they were trying to show different ethnic groups from back in the day.)


Fiona - Sep 24, 2008 1:57:41 am PDT #4840 of 30001

How are they working in the fact that she's biracial? Is it just not being mentioned, tra-la-la

This. As far as the first episode is concerned, at any rate.


le nubian - Sep 24, 2008 3:23:02 am PDT #4841 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

ita,

"Why?"

because nearly everything in the show - the relationships between people, events (lead character's bf's funeral) were all things I would have expected would happen directly after the pilot. Even seeing Molly Dodd again for as much as we saw her.


sumi - Sep 24, 2008 4:26:09 am PDT #4842 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

So you think that the stuff about her having handled only 3rd cases, etc - was all tacked on later?


Topic!Cindy - Sep 24, 2008 4:34:18 am PDT #4843 of 30001
What is even happening?

I couldn't watch last night's Eureka, because we're having a cable/TiVo disagreement of epic proportions (the detailed whine is better suited for a blog). I'm dying, here. Allison's pregnant? Jack's been fired? Aye de mi.

But it is taking the pie theme a bit far.

*Checks URL*

* That said, I hope they don't fix this too quickly. We can get fresh new stories with a new sheriff, or the complete lack of one, mayhaps even some cross-country marshalling stories. I like it! Fresh dynamics!

I'd bet folding money Michael Muhney's available, not that I'd ever want him near Eureka. Sorry. I just got a whiff of former sheriff with cute, smart, blonde daughter is caught up in small town intrigue and you know the rest, because you went there, too:

Eva traveled all the way to Farmington LA on the Shield where she is Beaver's mother. (from Veronica Mars)

Heh.

I know we're all "Oh Noes, how can they take Carter's job? How will there be a show?" But honestly, for a guy working in a super-dangerous town where people are dying left and right, who just had to face the prospect of his daughter dying of old age in a month? Getting kicked out and relocating to a safer town probably wouldn't seem like all that horrible a price for saving his daughter and letting one of the people responsible for her cure escape arrest.

The thing is, I think it's Eureka -- despite all its physical dangers -- that has saved Jack and Zoe's relationship, and arguably Zoe's future. Out in the "real world" Jack was a workaholic who couldn't/wouldn't be there for his family because his job required so much of him, and his daughter was headed for huge trouble. In Eureka, he can be the father and man he was meant to be, and she has the sort of environment, and the tools that can help her become the woman she can be.

Our world today is so physically safe, but it wasn't always thus for humanity. In some ways, living in Eureka is like living in a more primative world (albeit with lots of awesome toys) than a modern day Western city. Okay, so the dangers in Eureka are a by-product of the technology (and the humans that invent it) that allows people to escape the wolves, lions, pestilence, and the lack of ability to find sufficient food and shelter, but they're physical threats all the same.

I guess I'm circling around my point -- which I think is that Eureka is dangerous in a different way than say Los Angeles or New York, or Boise, but the world is a dangerous place. You take Zoe out of Eureka, and she's safe from crazy scientists, but she's much more likely to fall prey to any other number of things that could kill her (or ruin her life; or keep/distract her from reaching her potential), and Jack's more likely to be dragged off from doing his most important job -- being her father.