I've seen honest faces before. They usually come attached to liars.

Willow ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Juliebird - Sep 23, 2008 5:08:40 pm PDT #4832 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Ack!

I wasn't very invested in this ep, neither good nor bad, but when I could see the Pregnant Allison bomb coming, I thought that would be the cap to the episode, and groaned, because what we need is more pregnant characters (especially for a character who already can't be bothered to parent her already existing child).

But Jack getting fired made me sit up and shout. !!! Losing the job (beyond the obvious of losing the formula of the show) means losing the stable place where he was finally able to be a good dad to Zoe, where he is able to be Allison's friend and... birthing coach *chokes on a baby*.

I won't include the stability he provides for Lexi, since she can rot in hell, and if anything good comes out of this, it's that she runs back to her W.H.O. doctor and is lost in the jungles of Timbuktu and the twins can be raised by monkeys.*

I did enjoy Eva's story, and almost wish that this final act had been extended another episode, as the resolution came all too quickly and easily.

* That said, I hope they don't fix this too quickly. We can get fresh new stories with a new sheriff, or the complete lack of one, mayhaps even some cross-country marshalling stories. I like it! Fresh dynamics!


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 23, 2008 5:11:06 pm PDT #4833 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I know we're all "Oh Noes, how can they take Carter's job? How will there be a show?" But honestly, for a guy working in a super-dangerous town where people are dying left and right, who just had to face the prospect of his daughter dying of old age in a month? Getting kicked out and relocating to a safer town probably wouldn't seem like all that horrible a price for saving his daughter and letting one of the people responsible for her cure escape arrest.


Juliebird - Sep 23, 2008 5:14:10 pm PDT #4834 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Jo/Zane: for a minute or two there I really thought they were caving to the Season 2 Zane hate and breaking them up, which I thought was just awful since I've come to kinda like him, but once they got back together, I hated him again, already missing the idea of Jo as a free woman. I really did enjoy them fighting though, because it meant that Jo wasn't being all season 2 on us, except that in the end she totally was. le sigh.

At least this time Zane wasn't a total slimeball.


quester - Sep 23, 2008 5:25:24 pm PDT #4835 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

Eva traveled all the way to Farmington LA on the Shield where she is Beaver's mother. (from Veronica Mars)


sumi - Sep 23, 2008 6:53:55 pm PDT #4836 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Hmmm, when Beaver is done on The Shield I wonder if he'll be appearing as Kid Flash in Smallville. (They mentioned him last week.)


Vortex - Sep 23, 2008 8:42:54 pm PDT #4837 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I'm sure that Carter will stay in Eureka, and continue to be the town savior even though he's not sheriff anymore. They will probably not promote Jo again, and she will again be pissed :)


§ ita § - Sep 23, 2008 9:17:03 pm PDT #4838 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm convinced that tonight's "Fringe" ep came before last week's in terms of chronology.

Why?

relocating to a safer town

Well, we know that's not happening. Frankly, I don't see his place in town without being sheriff, and since they're not losing their star in the middle of the season it hadn't occurred to me he wasn't going to be reinstated sooner or later. But I guess there are ways around it. Remains to be seen...eventually.


Fay - Sep 23, 2008 11:04:38 pm PDT #4839 of 30001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

I'm afraid I thought she was a bit nondescript, to be honest. Pleasant enough, but not the great beauty and consort of legend. Not yet, anyway.

Ah well. Glad to hear she wasn't a vortex of suckitude: sounds like she's had to work very hard to get to where she's at, so it's nice that she's got a mainish role in a BBC thing with well-known people. Go Team, and all that. (How are they working in the fact that she's biracial? Is it just not being mentioned, tra-la-la, in the manner of Stargate, or are they going for a The-Celts-are-darker-skinned thing? I'd quite like it if they were trying to show different ethnic groups from back in the day.)


Fiona - Sep 24, 2008 1:57:41 am PDT #4840 of 30001

How are they working in the fact that she's biracial? Is it just not being mentioned, tra-la-la

This. As far as the first episode is concerned, at any rate.


le nubian - Sep 24, 2008 3:23:02 am PDT #4841 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

ita,

"Why?"

because nearly everything in the show - the relationships between people, events (lead character's bf's funeral) were all things I would have expected would happen directly after the pilot. Even seeing Molly Dodd again for as much as we saw her.