It's my estimation that... every man ever got a statue made of him, was one kind of sumbitch or another.

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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


smonster - Aug 15, 2008 7:24:50 am PDT #4178 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

I enjoy Eureka. Sometimes I wish it had a bit more subtlety, but the acting and my affection for many of the characters keep me watching.


sumi - Aug 15, 2008 8:11:51 am PDT #4179 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

This would be the place to discuss the 4400.


Frankenbuddha - Aug 15, 2008 7:51:46 pm PDT #4180 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Finally got around to watching that episode of Fear, Itself with Colin. Holy Shit that was a nasty piece of work. Brilliantly done in its way, and well acted, but dear lord - I remember when the folks getting the horrible fates remotely deserved it for at least SOME personal failing. This goes up with the movie INSIDE (which I cannot even remotely recommend to anyone except the most diehard, hardcore, extreme, I AM NOT KIDDING, horror fans) as the most depressing ending to a filmed horror story where some characters survive (for the moment).


libkitty - Aug 15, 2008 8:43:57 pm PDT #4181 of 30001
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

So, as mentioned above, I just finished The 4400. I had completely forgotten that it was cancelled. I vaguely remember hearing that it had gone downhill, but that was not my experience in watching it. If anything, I was growing to like it more. As the mythology grew more complex, I grew more intrigued. Even contradictions struck me as indicative of the contradictions of life and varying points of view, rather than plot holes (like the whole vampires in sunlight change in s2 BtVS).

When I realized that the show was over, with a cliffhanger, no less, I was seriously bummed. Now, I'm starting to get used to the idea, and while I'd rather watch more, part of me is kind of glad, because I kind of think that they would have had Tom take the promicin, and I really don't want him to. It seems like they might be able to do more with the show if he does take it, and Kyle seems so matter-of-fact about it. However, there are two reasons why I don't think he would, despite his love and growing respect for his son. 1) I think he believes that some kind of balance of power is important. Yes, the Marked have turned out to be bad, and it seems like some intervention from the future may be truly warranted. He clearly has some respect for Jordan Collier. However, while he respects him, I think he also kind of fears him, and feels that the religion he's creating may be going too far. 2) I think he's kind of mad at the people of the future for all the grief he's suffered, especially losing Alana, and that he's just ornery enough to not want to blindly follow their guidance.

Also, I've never gotten into fanfic before, but this might be the mythology that finally leaves me desperate enough for that. However, I'm definitely not desperate enough for crappy fanfic. Does anyone have suggestions for well written stuff?


sumi - Aug 16, 2008 6:33:59 am PDT #4182 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

I haven't looked for any 4400 fan fiction. I would love it if they did at least a 2 hour tv movie to tie up loose ends, but I'm afraid that's just not going to happen. (Notice that most of USA's current shows are more procedural than speculative.)


libkitty - Aug 16, 2008 5:05:06 pm PDT #4183 of 30001
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

I'm not really familiar with USA's offerings, and didn't even watch this when it came out, because I have teeny tiny cable, mostly just broadcast networks and WGN. Nonetheless, from the little I did see online, I agree that even a tv movie seems unlikely. I read that they're coming out with some books, though. I guess someone got a contract for 4, and initially the idea was for them to supplement the show, but now that it's cancelled, the latter two may wrap things up. It's really hard for me to cross formats. I've never been able to get into the Buffy or Firefly comics, for example. I might try these, but I thought I would wait for the second two, the ones that tie things up.

I really liked the director's cut of the final ep, and loved the commentary. Although it didn't really tie more up, I felt more closure listening to Peters talk about the cancellation.

I honestly never thought I would go all fangurl on this show.


Jessica - Aug 17, 2008 3:56:55 pm PDT #4184 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Crap - I finally got caught up with Eureka, and the end of the ep was cut off!! I missed the entire last act. Is it on Hulu, by any chance?

(I can't ahem - Universal knows my IP address.)


Tom Scola - Aug 17, 2008 3:58:59 pm PDT #4185 of 30001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Is it on Hulu, by any chance?

Oui.


Jessica - Aug 17, 2008 3:59:23 pm PDT #4186 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Hooray! Saved by the interwebs!


dcp - Aug 17, 2008 5:10:09 pm PDT #4187 of 30001
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

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