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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Juliebird - Aug 01, 2008 5:45:04 pm PDT #3980 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Did anyone else hear DT slipping into his brogue in the Bad Wolf Bay scene?

And having watched this episode four or five times now, I think it would have been better served without Sarah Janes son and her constant going-on about him, Mr. Smith, K-9, Jackie, Gwen and Ianto. No disrespect to the characters, there was just far too much shoe-horning going on, and I'd rather the story had been served, rather than the memory of RTD's tenure. Especially since we still have him for some of the specials. Dude, you can't have your going away party before you take vacation and then come back to work for one last month. (or, well, you can, but it's a bit anti-climatic)


Kathy A - Aug 01, 2008 6:01:11 pm PDT #3981 of 30001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

The only thing I'm curious about is that Dalek Caan said that one of the Children of Time would still die. Do you think he meant Donna, if the Doctor didn't do what he did? Or do you think one of them still has to die and we'll see it in season 5?

I was just reading the comments over at the Flick Filosopher's blog post on this ep, and someone over there had the brilliant idea that the "ever-faithful child of time" that Dalek Caan was referring to was himself. After all, he protected the Doctor and Donna, shepherding them to exactly that point in time.


SailAweigh - Aug 01, 2008 6:01:11 pm PDT #3982 of 30001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Just a little bit, Juliebird! I forget which word it was that pinged me, but, yeah. I wish he could use it all the time. I love listening to him in his little video blogs on the DVDs.


SailAweigh - Aug 01, 2008 6:03:23 pm PDT #3983 of 30001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

the "ever-faithful child of time" that Dalek Caan was referring to was himself

Ooh. That could be! Nifty idea.


DCJensen - Aug 01, 2008 6:24:32 pm PDT #3984 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.

I want Jenny to show up and Donna to go into crisis, and remember everything. Once she gets cured, she gets to tear the Doctor a new one.


Invisible Green - Aug 01, 2008 6:27:12 pm PDT #3985 of 30001

I love that her grandfather is so kind to the Doctor here. I hope this isn't the last we see of Donna or Granddad.

I really want Wilf to be the Doctor's new companion. An old man companion would be awesome!


sumi - Aug 01, 2008 6:33:34 pm PDT #3986 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Does anyone know if the promo for the Christmas special that aired with the UK final is up on youtube yet? I was disappointed to not see it here.


Juliebird - Aug 01, 2008 6:34:28 pm PDT #3987 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

And the Doctor says "Doesn't need saying.", right? As opposed to the waffling "Does it need saying?"

Because I've seen a lot of the latter in posts here and there, but I keep hearing the former, which I like better. Because it's a stand, a firm declarative statement. He's not asking her, he's telling her.

Sail, the brogue seems to subtley start with "You've got to" in response to Rose's whinging about not beig going back to the parrallel universe after trying so hard to find him, and kicks into full gear with "We've saved the universe, but at a cost, and the cost is him" and reappears briefly when he says "born in battle".

I mean, I'd marry a fat, mysoginistic, abusive man so long as he had red hair and spoke with a brogue, but it's just not the Doctor's voice! Granted, his slip of the accent is probably due to that scene being filmed with the failing light and rising tide.


sumi - Aug 01, 2008 6:40:30 pm PDT #3988 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Why, yes, it is!


Juliebird - Aug 01, 2008 6:49:08 pm PDT #3989 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I guess in the end what I hated about this ep was necessary in order for what I loved about it to happen. And perhaps vice versa (like, I wouldn't have gotten all the companions piloting the TARDIS if they hadn't all been involved, deadweight or not. Well, except Jackie. Really, her entire presence amounted to the butt-end of a mean joke? "No. Just, no."?!) There's no easy fix without starting from scratch.