I battle evil. But I don't really win. The bad keeps coming back and getting stronger. Like that kid in the story, the boy that stuck his finger in the duck.

Buffy ,'Showtime'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

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JenP - Aug 01, 2008 4:08:57 pm PDT #3965 of 30001

Hee. That made me laugh and laugh.


JenP - Aug 01, 2008 4:39:53 pm PDT #3966 of 30001

I love this part. All piloted up!

Convenient that they had fireworks at the ready.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 01, 2008 4:50:38 pm PDT #3967 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Must have learned from the Rebellion pilots at Endor.


Juliebird - Aug 01, 2008 4:51:59 pm PDT #3968 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Damn, is there a night this week that I'm not going to cry? --referring to all the companions piloting the TARDIS and Earth home.

Poor Jackie, I dunno why they brought her in and then all her directions are "stand in the background". Shame for the actress, and a waste of space/time that couldn't have been used in, oh I dunno, having the Doctor react with grief when he thought Donna had died in the TARDIS. Or exploring human!Ten a little more instead of having him likewise standing around like a lump.

I still want to have the Bad Wolf Bay scene rewritten.


JenP - Aug 01, 2008 4:59:43 pm PDT #3969 of 30001

shakey fist raised in RTD's general direction

I hate what he (RTD) did to Donna. There, I said it. I was trying to be all reasonable and shit when it first aired, but now I just... hate it. I'm not saying it doesn't work within the story. I just hate it. That's all.

I love that her grandfather is so kind to the Doctor here. I hope this isn't the last we see of Donna or Granddad. I ♥ them.

Poor Doctor. I ♥ you, too.


quester - Aug 01, 2008 5:02:03 pm PDT #3970 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

--referring to all the companions piloting the TARDIS and Earth home.

That was so cool! Best part of the episode!


quester - Aug 01, 2008 5:05:17 pm PDT #3971 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

The Stargate franchise is like a big SciFi magnet isn't it. Pulling in loose actors from other shows that have been cut loose! I think the only significant franchise not represented is Babylon 5.


Juliebird - Aug 01, 2008 5:05:41 pm PDT #3972 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

*hugs refound kitty to bring back happies*

In a way, I wish that this hadn't been the finale. Or that everything hadn't been shoved into this one ep. It could have been tied off with a neat "Earth is safe, everyone's alive" and then there could have been several more eps as Rose comes to grips with human!Ten and the Doctor tries to find ways to save Donna, and both of them choose for themselves. At least then there would have been more Donna, I wouldn't have to gag everytime I watch the BWB scene (and I've read the logic and reasoning and momentarily I'm swayed, but in the end, nope: gag), and the pain wouldn't be so bad.

DONNA!!!!!!


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 01, 2008 5:05:42 pm PDT #3973 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I don't get why the Doctor had to erase all Donna's memories of himself and the TARDIS. Take his own active consciousness back, sure, and maybe even remove Donna's memories of her experiences while her mind was expanded to avoid a Flowers for Algernon-type situation. But why would remembering things she'd experienced before that point pose any danger to her?


SailAweigh - Aug 01, 2008 5:11:07 pm PDT #3974 of 30001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Yeah, I wasn't at all happy with the Donna mindwipe, either time. I bawled like a baby, again. Especially when Wilf said he'd look up for her. Geez, I'm still teary.

And, can I smack Rose? She's got a Doctor, be happy! He's got all the same damn memories, he's the same man, minus one heart. And guess what, he'll say he loves you! Be happy! Yeesh.