It's like there was five years inbetween when we next saw him!
I think it's the hair.
Rose, I'm sorry about the hair and the clothes you seem to be stuck with.
That was even worse than the lisp.
Zoe: She shot you. Mal: Well, yeah, she did a bit... still --
'Serenity'
Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon
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Invisible Green - Jul 18, 2008 5:09:18 pm PDT #3686 of 30001
Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 18, 2008 5:18:23 pm PDT #3687 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
WHOA! So that wasn't so much Rose as we last saw her, as some manifestation of Bad Wolf Rose? It would explain her knowing so much about how Donna's life was supposed to have gone despite returning into an alternate timeline where those events never happened...
Juliebird - Jul 18, 2008 5:23:53 pm PDT #3688 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
I think it's the hair.
I think it's the clothes/wardrobe as well. He just seems so smooth-skinned and skinny and just, well, young. I'm finding it all rather shocking in comparison to how he looks in the first season of Torchwood (maybe it's the huge trenchcoat?)
Rewatching Rose in season 1 and she's like a vapid Donna point 1. She was the voice of reason and humanity, and these new glimpses of her just aren't tying that in. She's cool, but beyond the voice issues, not my Rose.
But Donna, oh Donna. You rock.
Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 18, 2008 5:38:25 pm PDT #3689 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
My God, I think I'm going to pass out from shock. A Stargate episode actually had a semi-feasible explanation for where the raw material came from for some threat growing at freakish rate.
Juliebird - Jul 18, 2008 6:02:36 pm PDT #3690 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
What is this witchery?! How is it that SGA managed to make me not hate Woolsey at the very end? That, like, takes writing and stuff. Passingly decent writing. The hell? Stop the madness!!
At least I don't have to deal with floppy-ponytailed-Not!Sam anymore. Not that I was ever a fan of Sam, but her SGA incarnation was a total assassination.
Frankenbuddha - Jul 18, 2008 8:33:31 pm PDT #3691 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Donna Noble, you rock. I love Martha Jones, but the pining was an issue. I think I may have a new favorite companion.
I did find Rose's reticence when asked by Donna if she's "ever...", concerning the Doctor verrrrry interesting.
Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 18, 2008 10:25:52 pm PDT #3692 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Someone over at TwoP referred to a Who novel with a companion named Samantha Jones, which in light of that moment made me imagine Kim Cattrall having cosmos with friends and saying "Honey, hearts aren't the only thing he's got more than one of!"
Fay - Jul 19, 2008 12:52:56 am PDT #3693 of 30001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.
I was bemused to realise that Kim Cattrall had (1) been involved with the lickable Alexander Siddig for a while and (2) played a vulcan on one of the Trek movies.
Juliebird - Jul 19, 2008 6:22:46 am PDT #3694 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
Jimmy McGovern has a thing for white dog shit, it would seem. Now I'm watcing Life on Mars and there's Sam Tyler kicking at it saying "takes me back".
I think the first time I saw Kim Cattral was in Split Second with Rutger Hauer, and then on Star Trek. So her SitC stint was weird and new to me.
SailAweigh - Jul 19, 2008 6:50:21 am PDT #3695 of 30001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb
I think I fell in love with Donna in the Fires of Pompeii. Since I haven't seen all the classic Who stuff, I can't speak to the future (of my likingness), but Donna is by far my favorite companion. I enjoyed Martha, I tolerated Rose, but I freaking love Donna. She brings both the funny and the pain in equal measure. She insists she's "just a temp from Chiswick", but I find her to be the strongest of the companions, because she rises above her fears every damn time, no matter what it costs her.
Rose joined the Doctor on a lark, looking to escape to adventure, not afraid of anything because like most teenagers they believe they're indestructable. Not looking to transform herself, just to have fun. She did become transformed, but that was expected. She was young and had a long way to go, anyway. Maturing is something you expected to happen to her and would have happened to her with or without the Doctor.
Martha joined the Doctor a little for adventure, because he appealed to her sense of responsibility and because she fell in love. She already knew exactly who she was and she could do it with or without the Doctor.
Donna...turned the Doctor down. She found his lifestyle too scary. Until she realized she couldn't live with mediocrity anymore and sought the Doctor out. She turned everything on its head and shook things up, most especially the Doctor. And yet, she keeps believing that, if anything makes her special, it is being the Doctor's companion because she's "just a temp from Chiswick." By the time of Forest of the Dead and Turn Left I knew there would never be any other companion for me than Donna.