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'Potential'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

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This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


victor infante - Jul 14, 2008 11:13:31 am PDT #3608 of 30001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

maybe the Tardis won't let him go to a place where he already is.

For the most part, that's the case. Rarely, when the shields are down (such as in the Children in Need special) or when he overrides it (Such as in "Father's Day") he can cross his own timeline, but the TARDIS' automatic settings mostly stop that from happening. Because that way leads to bad things happening. Wibbley-wobbley, timey-wimey stuff.

Moreover, I suspect there's a level where the current Doctor is consciously avoiding Time Lords entirely thoughout time. (Which isn't hard. Very few of them traveled.) He'd probably say he was trying not to muck about with history, but I think running across any of his people from before The Time War happened would simply be too painful. The temptation to, say, go back and look at his son/daughter (it's never explicitly stated), or Susan, or Romana must be overwhelming, and theoretically within his power. And it would probably devestate him.


Polter-Cow - Jul 14, 2008 11:16:27 am PDT #3609 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Moreover, I suspect there's a level where the current Doctor is consciously avoiding Time Lords entirely thoughout time. (Which isn't hard. Very few of them traveled.)

Really? What the shit did they do, then? I mean...they were TIME LORDS. LORDS OF TIME. And they just hung around Gallifrey musing upon all of creation? What purpose did they serve, and why did anyone care about them? I'm still unclear on what non-Doctor Time Lords are like.


victor infante - Jul 14, 2008 11:27:21 am PDT #3610 of 30001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

And they just hung around Gallifrey musing upon all of creation?

Pretty much, which is why the Doctor found them very dull, and preferred to travel. Usually, his fellow Time Lords where pains in his ass -- either dragging him back to Gallifrey to chastise him for mucking about with time (they even exiled him to Earth for a spell) or using him as an agent they could disavow for dangerous missions. Their mission was to protect the course of time, but in practice, they rarely left Gallifrey.

Anthony Stewart Head's character called them something like "dry, dusty senators," and he wasn't far off.


Juliebird - Jul 14, 2008 11:34:14 am PDT #3611 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

If Life ends up sucking in it's sophmore season, I'd have to wholeheartedly vote Damian Lewis as Eleven. He'd be ginger! Dark and manic and ginger!

But at this point, I don't care who'd be the new Doctor, because if I'd seen stills of Tennant being promoed as the new Who, I'd have been dead set against it.


§ ita § - Jul 14, 2008 11:36:20 am PDT #3612 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

They also created black holes, which was pretty nifty. My people never did anything that cool.


tiggy - Jul 14, 2008 11:41:30 am PDT #3613 of 30001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

if i were to watch specific old school Who, what would y'all recommend? because i have to admit that this conversation is piqueing my interest.


DebetEsse - Jul 14, 2008 11:52:15 am PDT #3614 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

There was a list, although it's a bit long, that someone put together of Essential Stories for each Doctor The other Doctors' lists are under Movie and Television Reviews


lisah - Jul 14, 2008 11:55:59 am PDT #3615 of 30001
Punishingly Intricate

This may be naive or whatever but this speculation that there has to be an 11th Dr. Who is just speculation, right? It's not spoiler?

I mean that there has to be one NOW as opposed to some vague point in the future.


amych - Jul 14, 2008 12:06:04 pm PDT #3616 of 30001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Not a spoiler, lisah. It hasn't been announced yet one way or the other, so the UK press has been going apeshit with the speculation about every actor under the sun.


lisah - Jul 14, 2008 12:10:29 pm PDT #3617 of 30001
Punishingly Intricate

It hasn't been announced yet one way or the other, so the UK press has been going apeshit with the speculation about every actor under the sun.

Okay, I thought maybe there was something at the end of the last episode that hasn't run here yet that made it clear that there has to be a new doctor.