How's it sit? Pretty cunning, don'tchya think?

Jayne ,'The Message'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


victor infante - Jul 14, 2008 7:06:46 am PDT #3593 of 30001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

question for you old school Whovians. did the Time War happen before we saw any incarnations of the Doctor? or did it happen during someone's run, but was only alluded to?

The Time War is new -- it happened sometime between the last time we saw the Eighth Doctor, and the first time we saw The Ninth.


Tom Scola - Jul 14, 2008 7:07:57 am PDT #3594 of 30001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

The Time War was never shown. It was made up by RTD, and presumably happened just before the 2005 series.

You can see it as a logical continuation of the events in Genesis of the Daleks in 1975, through to Remembrance of the Daleks in 1988.


tiggy - Jul 14, 2008 7:09:54 am PDT #3595 of 30001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

aha! interesting. i always assumed it was a long-standing thing.


Jessica - Jul 14, 2008 7:14:47 am PDT #3596 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Help! Victor is having a Time War with the board!


tiggy - Jul 14, 2008 7:16:52 am PDT #3597 of 30001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

::snerk::


victor infante - Jul 14, 2008 7:37:10 am PDT #3598 of 30001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Help! Victor is having a Time War with the board!

EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE!


lisah - Jul 14, 2008 7:55:09 am PDT #3599 of 30001
Punishingly Intricate

(Although James Nesbitt was on the Graham Norton Show once again denying that he's the next Doctor.

Oh man, after being so good about not getting spoiled for the eps past what they've shown on Sci-Fi I almost spoiled myself watching Graham Norton. At least I think I did.


Invisible Green - Jul 14, 2008 8:50:51 am PDT #3600 of 30001

Were there to be another regeneration in the foreseeable future, who do we think might make a good Eleven?

I like Adrian Lester.

Is [RTD] out of the picture totally, or did he just step back?

After the four specials, he's out.


Polter-Cow - Jul 14, 2008 9:08:11 am PDT #3601 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

aha! interesting. i always assumed it was a long-standing thing.

I know! I was so surprised to find out it wasn't a Thing before because it essentially defined Nine and, thus, the Doctor for me. I couldn't imagine a Doctor romping around pre-Time War.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 14, 2008 10:35:17 am PDT #3602 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Initially there was the implied possibility that the Time War had involved the Daleks and Time Lords making causality-defying strikes against each other's origins until some final effort of the Doctor's resulted in both species being erased from history and restructuring the whole universe absent the influence of either, with himself as the sole survivor. But it sort of became more and more pedestrian as they continued referring back to it, and it now seems that the Eighth Doctor just pulled the trigger on some big weapon that blew up Gallifrey and all the attacking Daleks with it.

I suppose I should be thankful since that means the Doctor's history with prior companions (like Sarah Jane) hasn't been erased, and he's still the Boogeyman that immediately sends the Daleks to Defcon One. But I liked the initial concept of a brave new world in which the Time Lords not only no longer exist but had never existed in the first place.