River: They weren't cows inside. They were waiting to be, but they forgot. Now they see the sky and they remember what they are. Mal: Is it bad that what she said made perfect sense to me?

'Safe'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Juliebird - Jun 22, 2008 5:16:24 am PDT #3106 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Who 4.11 I wish they'd given her better hair for the ep, and maybe a better wardrobe, or maybe a more mature wardrobe to tell the story of how she has a more responsible and serious job. Some sign that's she's changed and different and more grown-up.


DebetEsse - Jun 22, 2008 5:20:22 am PDT #3107 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Who 4.11: I hear you on that. I'd love to know how she got UNIT (I'm assuming it's UNIT) listening to her. Although I suppose a TARDIS key would go a long way.


Dana - Jun 22, 2008 5:20:49 am PDT #3108 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Who 4.11:

Yeah, what was up with Billie Piper's speech? It was really distracting. She didn't always sound like that, did she?


DebetEsse - Jun 22, 2008 5:30:41 am PDT #3109 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Who 4.11: No, she didn't. According to the Internets, she was having trouble remembering/replicating the Rose voice, and she has new veneers on her teeth (thus the lisp)


Dana - Jun 22, 2008 6:12:10 am PDT #3110 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Who 4.11:

I didn't realize Rose had a "special" voice. Huh.

Whatever. Next week, IANTO!


DebetEsse - Jun 22, 2008 6:21:32 am PDT #3111 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Who 4.11: Apparently, with the lots of acting (esp period stuff), her normal speaking voice has gotten posher (*This is what the Internet told me disclaimer). But it makes sense that she'd have a particular way of speaking for the character, distinct from her own normal way.

Also, I know! And Everyone Else Ever!


Torque - Jun 22, 2008 1:02:32 pm PDT #3112 of 30001
Bad Wolf

DW 4.11

Holy Hell everyone indeed. I can't wait, I want next week to be this week already.


DCJensen - Jun 22, 2008 3:08:55 pm PDT #3113 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.

DW 4.11

I kept trying to figure out who the Asian fortuneteller was.

About a half hour after watching, I finally figured it out.

She is the actress who played Chantho, from last season's Utopia, Chipo Chung.


Juliebird - Jun 22, 2008 3:25:08 pm PDT #3114 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

DW 4.11 Daniel, you reminded me of one of the nagging thoughts I had during the ep: why did the fortune-teller want to lure marks in to have their time/universe get altered. She seemed so adamant and passionate about it, but I still can't fathom her angle. What's her benefit?

The other query I had was why if Rose could show up at the exact right place at the exact right time to whisper Bad Wolf into Donna's ear, then how come they couldn't send Donna to the exact place and time, and why did it have to be Donna killing herself to accomplish this? Why not Rose going and blowing a giant pothole in the road. As awesome as Donna giving all the she had was, seeing that Rose had the ability to be there also makes me question why the f*** why?


Fiona - Jun 23, 2008 3:08:58 am PDT #3115 of 30001

Juliebird, I figured that Rose was a transmission from the parallel universe (rather like the Doctor was in her universe when they said their goodbyes), and thus only able to transport herself from place to place. Though: did she just tell UNIT what to do with the time machine or was she actually at the controls...? 'Cos that would spoil my theory. Anyway.

I thought that the fortune teller definitely had a Hidden Agenda, and was working for somebody, in order to get Donna away from the Doctor. That would probably make more sense than just tricking random people to feed her humungous pet beetle .