Many people over at TWOP are convinced that they landed in New Jersey - right across from NYC.

I have absolutely nothing to say about this week's U.K. episode of Who.

It was... odd. Bit of a downer, really.

Hoboken?

They just thought that they were seeing Manhattan across that river. (Is Hoboken right outside of New York?)

Okay, so - seeing what they saw. . . does that necessarily mean that no people are alive on that planet (Earth, if that's where it is)? I mean, couldn't the Final Cylon be in a group of survivors somewhere on the planet?

We still haven't had answered WHO sent Kara back in the "special" Viper, so presumably there's more to this Earth than we're seeing. Somebody REALLY wanted them to get there.

Hoboken, New Jersey City, etc are on the west side of Manhattan, but isn't it all tunnels unless you go further south or north to the Verazzano or the GW bridges, in which case I'm not sure if you'd still have a significant view of Manhattan.

I'm just thinking that it would be funny if they were in Hoboken, because that name never fails to make me crack up. Maybe they could be in Cheesequake, home of the cheesecake-loving Quakers (why did I move to NJ again?)

I was kinda intrigued by Leoben's reaction to Earth (hell, I'll admit that everything Leoben/CKR does intrigues me). Sure, everyone was generally in shock and horrified, but they were looking at their surroundings for the most part. And there's Leoben, planted squarely towards the camera, gazing at the ground, like more than the dream of an ideal new home had been taken from him. He had a lot more invested in finding Earth than just a place to stop running, there was Kara, and the special destiny, and the streams and God and everything --and they'd better run with this somehow next year because I hate speculating on stuff that's just a throwaway.

So the Agatha Christie Doctor Who was quite amusing (I was hoping her disappearance was going to turn out to be because they had to whisk her away in the Tardis, but oh well). However, my pedant heart sank early on when Agatha showed up at the party and they inquired about Mr. Christie, when Agatha's philandering husband was Colonel Christie. Oh well, minor point, but it nagged.

I liked this week's Who quite a bit, aside from some pacing issues. For some reason, I found the Doctor almost being thrown out an airlock by a frightened mob to be more suspenseful than any potential death by Dalek, Vashta Nerada, etc. I also liked the very realistic portrayal of the sulky teen--amazingly insightful one moment, total little shit the next.

One thing I also liked was how effective the scary parts were, with no effects other than acting or someone banging on a piece of sheet metal.

what Anne said.

Re: UK Who

I was watching Twilight Zone earlier, and there was an episode that, 5 minutes in, made me say, "This is that Uglies series. Huh. Guess it got borrowed." Similarly, I thought this episode reminiscent of The Monsters Are Due on Maple Street, where the whole point is that WE are the scariest thing in the room, whatever else there might be.

It must have been an intense filming, what with the, basically, just one set. I've always been a fan of "Let's put these characters in a small room and under stress and see what happens", as a plot device.

Oh, yeah, and ROSE! Apparently, she was on one of the monitors on the shuttle, but I didn't see it this time (I did on the screen in the TARDIS back in whatever ep that was)