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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Steph L. - Dec 03, 2015 4:29:32 pm PST #28856 of 30001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

I also really don't buy Felicity just losing her shit entirely and going from zero to break-up in 30 seconds when Ollie just had his life completely upended. Plus, it's really out of character for her to bust out with a trust = loyalty test (that's really just designed to be a gotcha).

Hurt, yes. Thrown for a serious loop, totally. But OMG WE ARE SO OVER YOU UNTRUSTING LIAR? Yeah, no.


Hil R. - Dec 03, 2015 4:36:44 pm PST #28857 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I don't think Felicity was quite at break-up yet -- she was pissed, but if that timeline had continued, I think they would have cooled off and been able to discuss it. I think we're supposed to be seeing that she doesn't really believe that Oliver is going to stay.

And on that note, what on earth was preventing Oliver from lying to Samantha and telling the truth to Felicity, rather than the other way around? Tell Samantha, "I won't tell anyone," but then tell Felicity the whole thing. He's learned dozens of times by now that lying to loved ones never ends well, but he has no reason to keep a promise to Samantha, who's giving him an ultimatum.


Steph L. - Dec 03, 2015 4:46:25 pm PST #28858 of 30001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

I don't think Felicity was quite at break-up yet

Really? I took that as break-up (and, IIRC, so did Barry).

And on that note, what on earth was preventing Oliver from lying to Samantha and telling the truth to Felicity, rather than the other way around?

Seriously.


Hil R. - Dec 03, 2015 4:50:48 pm PST #28859 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

It seemed to me that it wasn't final. I'd have to watch it again, though.

Also, in that final scene, some of the glass on the floor was from that bowl where Oliver hid the ring, wasn't it? He's not stupid enough to have actually left the ring in there for months, is he?


sj - Dec 03, 2015 4:55:29 pm PST #28860 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Oliver? Yes, he is.


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 03, 2015 4:56:39 pm PST #28861 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Any bets on how long Oliver can keep popping over to Central City for playdates with this kid before someone like Savage or the League of Assassins puts two and two together and fridges him?


Vonnie K - Dec 03, 2015 4:57:33 pm PST #28862 of 30001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

I didn't get the promo for the next ep of Arrow last night, but it's available online nonetheless: [link]

Raise your hand if you're surprised at the development.


Hil R. - Dec 03, 2015 5:00:10 pm PST #28863 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Raise your hand if you're surprised at the development.

Only a bit, because there were a bunch of interviews this summer where they said they weren't going to do that so much anymore.


Steph L. - Dec 03, 2015 5:00:21 pm PST #28864 of 30001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Oliver? Yes, he is.

Co-signed.

Any bets on how long Oliver can keep popping over to Central City for playdates with this kid before someone like Savage or the League of Assassins puts two and two together and fridges him?

Dang, maybe THAT'S who's in the grave. Would they do that? I mean, they killed Moira in front of Ollie, but a kid is a whole different level of horrificness.


Hil R. - Dec 03, 2015 5:01:22 pm PST #28865 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Yeah, either the kid or his mother are in my top three for who's in the grave.