Damn it! You know what? I'm sick of this crap. I'm sick of being the guy who eats insects and gets the funny syphilis. As of this moment, it's over. I'm finished being everybody's butt monkey!

Xander ,'Lessons'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Polter-Cow - May 19, 2015 9:41:23 pm PDT #27944 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

iZombie

Sebastian would have been the first person Liv killed, except how he's not exactly all the way dead, but I guess he is the first zombie she's, um, made?

Oh!! Because he ate her blood. Now I get it.

I didn't expect the Max Rager plot to come back! Things are getting more complicated. I kind of miss the lightness of the first half of the season, but it's doing well like this too.

I am miffed that twice now they've teased a potential recurring Indian woman and then only brought her back to be dead.


DCJensen - May 20, 2015 12:40:08 am PDT #27945 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.

OTOH, it would be a good cameo for Supergirl to show up and help with the black hole...


Kalshane - May 20, 2015 5:06:47 am PDT #27946 of 30001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I think Barry fully intended to go save his mom until his future self told him not to. I can't see him bothering to go through all that just for some minor closure in telling her he turned out okay.

I'm still weirded out by the fact we keep being told that future Barry is the one who took young Barry out of the house, but we keep seeing a yellow blur actually do it.


Tom Scola - May 20, 2015 5:08:12 am PDT #27947 of 30001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Barry has a red costume and a yellow blur, while Thawne has a yellow costume and a red blur.


Kalshane - May 20, 2015 5:20:04 am PDT #27948 of 30001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Barry has a red blur with yellow lightning arcs while Thawne has the opposite, I thought.


Matt the Bruins fan - May 20, 2015 5:46:09 am PDT #27949 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I teared up at Barry's moment with his mom, which is extremely rare for me with regard to television. Though perhaps I was emotional due to the aneurysm caused by the show treating Mach 2 as some mythical velocity that could break the space-time continuum. If that were all it would take, they could have rigged up a light-gas gun to fire a bullet at supersonic speeds down the accelerator.

Other Crimes Against Physics: any black hole that could be created by the energies involved in a particle accelerator would be so tiny it would explode almost instantaneously in Hawking radiation rather than sticking around long enough to eat objects and grow. One large enough to do so would also immediately fall through the ground toward earth's center of gravity rather than hovering in the sky to suck up random cars and debris.


msbelle - May 20, 2015 6:29:52 am PDT #27950 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Yeah, but we are talking about a universe where Joe West is single. Nothing is logical in this universe.


DXMachina - May 20, 2015 8:07:02 am PDT #27951 of 30001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Other Crimes Against Physics:

I tried to wave it by considering the momentums of a "hydrogen proton"* (1.7 × 10^-24 g) moving at relativistic speed (which increases the mass) versus Barry (~8 × 10^4 kg) moving at mach 2. It still doesn't make sense. Unless... they needed to have a collision speed greater than the speed of light, and since the proton can't exceed the speed of light, they need the closing speed to be greater than c. Mach 2 is enough to get the closing velocity to the right place, and Barry is a bigger target than a rifle bullet.

* Don't get me started...

One large enough to do so would also immediately fall through the ground toward earth's center of gravity rather than hovering in the sky to suck up random cars and debris.

Very true. I've always suspected that this is what happened to Krypton.


Matt the Bruins fan - May 20, 2015 8:45:28 am PDT #27952 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Unless... they needed to have a collision speed greater than the speed of light, and since the proton can't exceed the speed of light, they need the closing speed to be greater than c. Mach 2 is enough to get the closing velocity to the right place, and Barry is a bigger target than a rifle bullet.

But... doesn't the combined velocity of two objects approaching each other at less than c remain less than c, regardless? No matter how fast you go, nothing coming toward you seems to be moving faster than light from your frame of reference.


Kalshane - May 20, 2015 9:17:53 am PDT #27953 of 30001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

So does anyone know of a site that lists what Barry saw in the Speed Force? I've seen mentions of Caitlin as Killer Frost and of Barry being arrested, but no definitive list and my Google-Fu is too weak, apparently.