You got all kinds of learnin' and you made me look the fool without tryin', and yet here I am with a gun to your head. That's 'cause I got people with me. People who trust each other, who do for each other, and ain't always lookin' for the advantage.

Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


quester - Apr 28, 2015 6:00:05 pm PDT #27659 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

:-( my CW signal was dead tonight, so no Flash. I hope it's back tomorrow. But it's really a crapshoot if there is wind or weather.


Kalshane - Apr 28, 2015 6:02:16 pm PDT #27660 of 30001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I'm an idiot. I just remembered the first episode showed Wells watching Barry in his lab. So they established from the beginning his surveillance devices, if not specifically where they were beyond the lab.


sj - Apr 28, 2015 6:16:39 pm PDT #27661 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

The team was kind of stupid not to think maybe the evil mastermind is watching you.


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 28, 2015 8:56:52 pm PDT #27662 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I facepalmed when Cisco telegraphed using that remote thingie he had in his hand to a supposed super-speedster criminal mastermind. Halfwit, you do not stop to mug at someone who can outrun lightning before you trigger the force field that's supposed to keep you safe from him.

For that matter, what would have kept Wells from rapid-disassembling the equipment maintaining the forcefield, which all looked to be outside said forcefield?


Typo Boy - Apr 28, 2015 9:29:53 pm PDT #27663 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Thoughts on Gotham:

1) Problem with a prequel in a long established world- too many characters who can't die yet.

2) Barbara - I seem to remember this Barbara being pretty selfish and narcissistic in the comments.

3) I don't think the problem with young Bruce/Selina scenes is the writing. I think with young Bruce they are trying portray the roots of the deeply repressed rage beneath a surface mask of calm that most of the adult portrayals of Batman had; but all they is a wooden affect. I'm not certain I blame the actor. That is one thing I suspect it takes an adult to pull off; I don't think I've ever seen a kid actor manage that.

4) From the previews of next weeks Gotham, I gather that they are going to go the "after she got out of that one" route with Fish. No long explanations: she was just badass enough to survive being gutshot, manage to fly the helicopter to safety, and either get medical attention or heal without it. My guess: Mooney will be reintroduced into action scene, and implicitly we will be told "watch the shiny gun/knife/mixed martial arts fight and don't worry your pretty little heads about why she's still alive.


sumi - Apr 29, 2015 5:14:58 am PDT #27664 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Jonathan Strange & Mister Norrell BBC1 trailer - but it's going to be on BBCA.


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 29, 2015 5:20:24 am PDT #27665 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I think with young Bruce they are trying portray the roots of the deeply repressed rage beneath a surface mask of calm that most of the adult portrayals of Batman had; but all they is a wooden affect. I'm not certain I blame the actor. That is one thing I suspect it takes an adult to pull off; I don't think I've ever seen a kid actor manage that.

I think Kirsten Dunst managed it pretty well in Interview with the Vampire but she's the only example I can think of. (And she's never managed anything nearly as good in the movies I've seen her do since, so I'm assuming that was a perfect storm of good direction and playing off talented costars.)


Wolfram - Apr 29, 2015 6:22:05 am PDT #27666 of 30001
Visilurking

Flash questions. Answers are probably obvious but I missed them.

I thought show had established that doppelganger guy couldn't duplicate powers. How did Wells get his double to do the rapidly moving hand trick? Or did that not happen?

Also how did Iris know from the hand-zap that Barry is the Flash?


EpicTangent - Apr 29, 2015 7:52:18 am PDT #27667 of 30001
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty

I don't think we actually saw doppelganger's hand go vibrate-y - just threatening it with the hand position. And they showed in the previouslies (or flashbacks?) when Iris touched Barry's hand when he was comatose there was the same little electric-y reaction.


Wolfram - Apr 29, 2015 8:21:54 am PDT #27668 of 30001
Visilurking

I think you're right, but that whole switching out thing confused me. For one, fake!Wells knew enough about Barry's mom's murder and the time-travel aspect to give Cisco a perfectly evasive answer. I guess you could say real!Wells was on an earpiece with him feeding him lines in real time, but I don't remember them showing that.

The other thing that bugged me was that apparently Cisco's barrier was only proof against speedsters, but ordinary people could just walk through them. Which is a weird design-limitation. I mean with technology like that they could have just set up a fake barrier anywhere to prove that Wells was a Speedster. First time I watched the scene, I actually thought Wells had phased through the barrier, because he was a better at phasing through stuff then Barry.