DW 4.08

Any chance that's Jenny after a regeneration or two?

Also

How impressive of Moffatt to basically say theres still a lot more doctor to come. Isn't there speculation that David Tennant won't be back for many more series?

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DW 4x08:

I think what we're supposed to get from it is that she's a former intimate (perhaps lover) that knew 10 for quite a while, but not Noble, implying that Tennant's run will exceed Tate's by a while. Which is a lot to say.

I hated when he started yelling about not letting the shadows cross, because there's no way they could stick to that, and then the viewers are left with rules for the universe that don't work. I think that in the quest for creepiness they exceeded how much consistency the script and the shooting could deliver, and it ended up more hysterical than most of Moffat's prior efforts.

DW 4.8:

VictorC, I also suspected she might be Jenny, but she definitely didn't seem daughterly, and...also, she can't be Jenny because this is supposed to be the first time The Doctor meets her and she meets Donna.

ita, I agree with you that the consistency of the shadow business bugged. I kept noticing when they were standing in the shadows and nothing happened. But I went with it anyway because it was cool.

As for the comparisons to "Blink," I don't necessarily care how "scary" each episode is. What I love is how clever Moffat is, integrating multiple elements of coolness and also playing with time travel, which, for God's sake, the show should do more often. And I think this two-parter obviously has a much larger scope than "Blink," and I really want to see what's up with CAL and the little girl and Dr. Moon. Even though they're not real.

DW 4.8:

P-C, my impression is that the little girl *is* CAL, the brain that runs/is the planet.

also I'm sure pretty River Song is meeting him now *before* she will have met him in her own personal past. Crossed timelines make the Doctor itch. To quote another Doc (Brown), "No man should know too much about their own destiny."

DCJ, I disagree about the timing in DW 408: She's not meeting him ahead of time in *her* personal past--just in his, much like Sally Sparrow in Blink.

DCJ, I know the little girl is CAL. That much is obvious. But that doesn't really give me the whole story of how CAL works and operates. And what Dr. Moon is and how he knows what's going on and why he's telling her. A failsafe program?

And, yeah, I agree with ita on the timing. And her very appropriate example.

DW 4x08 I had a vague unintelligible thought on how they are in the biography section, so many people saved but there are no bodies, that they were in fact turned into books, into their own personal biographies, and the little girl is stuck in her own fictional biography and... then I got nothing.

Has anyone watched the BBC series wire in the blood.

I just saw a promo for it and was wondering if it was any good.

ita, I meant she is meeting him before they "officially" the first time in her time line. The question is now will he remember her from this encounter when she meets him for the first time in his future? His mind does get scambled a bit with regenerations, sometimes.

DW 4.08:

But Daniel, hasn't she already met him several times in her own timeline? It's their first time meeting in *his* timeline, but not hers.

I agree with ita & P-C that the rules about not touching the shadows bugged; they way it was filmed, *everything* looked so dark that it seemed like they were almost always in one shadow or another. I just had to shrug & let it go after a while.