Zoe: I thought you wanted to spend more time off-ship this visit. Wash: Out there is seems like it's all fancy parties. I like our party better. The dress code is easier and I know all the steps.

'Shindig'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Polter-Cow - Jun 01, 2008 9:28:08 am PDT #2692 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

DW 4.8:

VictorC, I also suspected she might be Jenny, but she definitely didn't seem daughterly, and...also, she can't be Jenny because this is supposed to be the first time The Doctor meets her and she meets Donna.

ita, I agree with you that the consistency of the shadow business bugged. I kept noticing when they were standing in the shadows and nothing happened. But I went with it anyway because it was cool.

As for the comparisons to "Blink," I don't necessarily care how "scary" each episode is. What I love is how clever Moffat is, integrating multiple elements of coolness and also playing with time travel, which, for God's sake, the show should do more often. And I think this two-parter obviously has a much larger scope than "Blink," and I really want to see what's up with CAL and the little girl and Dr. Moon. Even though they're not real.


DCJensen - Jun 01, 2008 11:16:45 am PDT #2693 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.

DW 4.8:

P-C, my impression is that the little girl *is* CAL, the brain that runs/is the planet.

also I'm sure pretty River Song is meeting him now *before* she will have met him in her own personal past. Crossed timelines make the Doctor itch. To quote another Doc (Brown), "No man should know too much about their own destiny."


§ ita § - Jun 01, 2008 11:31:00 am PDT #2694 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

DCJ, I disagree about the timing in DW 408: She's not meeting him ahead of time in *her* personal past--just in his, much like Sally Sparrow in Blink.


Polter-Cow - Jun 01, 2008 11:38:55 am PDT #2695 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

DCJ, I know the little girl is CAL. That much is obvious. But that doesn't really give me the whole story of how CAL works and operates. And what Dr. Moon is and how he knows what's going on and why he's telling her. A failsafe program?

And, yeah, I agree with ita on the timing. And her very appropriate example.


Juliebird - Jun 01, 2008 11:51:01 am PDT #2696 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

DW 4x08 I had a vague unintelligible thought on how they are in the biography section, so many people saved but there are no bodies, that they were in fact turned into books, into their own personal biographies, and the little girl is stuck in her own fictional biography and... then I got nothing.


Torque - Jun 01, 2008 1:00:33 pm PDT #2697 of 30001
Bad Wolf

Has anyone watched the BBC series wire in the blood.

I just saw a promo for it and was wondering if it was any good.


DCJensen - Jun 01, 2008 1:31:37 pm PDT #2698 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.

ita, I meant she is meeting him before they "officially" the first time in her time line. The question is now will he remember her from this encounter when she meets him for the first time in his future? His mind does get scambled a bit with regenerations, sometimes.


Kate P. - Jun 01, 2008 1:42:31 pm PDT #2699 of 30001
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

DW 4.08:

But Daniel, hasn't she already met him several times in her own timeline? It's their first time meeting in *his* timeline, but not hers.

I agree with ita & P-C that the rules about not touching the shadows bugged; they way it was filmed, *everything* looked so dark that it seemed like they were almost always in one shadow or another. I just had to shrug & let it go after a while.


DCJensen - Jun 01, 2008 1:46:48 pm PDT #2700 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.

Okay, I'm low on brain fluid right now. I know what I want to say but I'm not saying it right or the fact I hadn't eatne in 8 hours dropped my glucose like a rock and even my clarification was muddy.

Presently eating a salad and contemplating a Tomato-basil flat bread wrap of some kind.


Dana - Jun 01, 2008 2:06:43 pm PDT #2701 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Wire in the Blood is good, especially if you like Robson Green playing slightly crazy. Which seems to be his schtick.