I was wondering if Romo is the 5th. He seemed to be going off the rails - not unlike Chief. So I'm wondering if he will be revealed as the 5th later on.

I do like your wonderings, le nubian, that Romo's odd behavior this ep is because he's a Cylon. Makes sense to me. More sense than a dead cat* causing this otherwise cool and mysterious character suddenly having a personality change where he is less collected. I had thought it was just because we got to see him alone, which I don't think we've really seen before.

Hmmm, if Romo is the fifth, then Jake the dog being given to him kinda ties him in a loose way to the resistance of which three of the final five were a part of. I'm stretching it there, I know. Gaeta should have Jake.

In other natter, my cats have decided that they like to have vegetables in their wet food.

*although I can see that if the cat was all he had left of his life, even if he hated it, losing that cat would be losing his last physical connection to his dead family, the [survivor's?] guilt comes flooding back to the forefront, etc.

I agree that Gaeta should have Jake.

What was the title of the episode?

"Sine Nan Quon."

"Sine Quan Non"

The Latin is "Sine Qua Non", which is interesting (don't know where the n came from). "(the thing) without which, nothing (else)"

Ha! I love that phrase and it amused me greatly to hear them talking about it at length. And clumsily.

I still wonder where Latin came from. Ancient Caprican civilization?

I just watched SG-1 "Heroes" 1&2 for the first time. Damn allergies.

Oh, indeed. Although I'm still pissy about the way they so elaborately faked-out the actual death. As if anyone was really going to believe Jack O'Neill died. Sheesh.

As for new BSG: Well, that was... yeah. I thought the Romo-with-gun business was interesting, and Saul-and-Adama fighting, but both of those ended up being no big deal in the end.

And I agree that Lee Adama is a VERY BAD IDEA as president. He's got three months' experience as a politician, is far too closely connected to the military (even after Bill stepped down), and is too much of an idealist for a people living on the edge of extinction. VP, maybe, under a pragmatist. But not P. Plus it was telegraphed from the beginning. And I don't think the Quorum would have approved him, for the above reasons. Too close to dynastic politics, you know?

Now the question really is: did Bill step down because Lee was chosen for President, or because he decided his judgment was no longer reliable, or was it both? Also, I suspect the Roslin/Adama Sr. shippers are very happy.

... what the hell has happened to Chief, anyway? And again with the complete ignoring of Nikki.

I felt bad for Athena: she's clearly kind of nuts, which is a pity given how well she was integrated before this point.

Now the question really is: did Bill step down because Lee was chosen for President, or because he decided his judgment was no longer reliable, or was it both?

It seemed like he stepped down because he realized his judgment had gone missing, but it seems like in order for Lee to be even considered for President, Adama has to step down first. I felt like RDM&Co wanted both things to happen but didn't want it to feel like they were making the one happen in order to get to the other, and so went WAY out of their way to give us 2 separate storylines that just barely held together on their own let alone as part of one coherent episode.

I'm also feeling like we missed a Starbuck episode. Suddenly she's sane and trustworthy enough to be CAG again? Buh?