Book: Yes, I'd forgotten you're moonlighting as a criminal mastermind now. Got your next heist planned? Simon: No. But I'm thinking about growing a big black mustache. I'm a traditionalist.

'War Stories'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

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-t - Dec 07, 2014 5:50:13 pm PST #26618 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Go for it. The movies are also fun, but it's not like they are full of crucial information that you will be lost without.


§ ita § - Dec 07, 2014 6:11:59 pm PST #26619 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I haven't watched the show, but does Kane's hairstyle get less ridic?


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 07, 2014 9:49:44 pm PST #26620 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

If not, does he say "I can't believe it's not butter!" at any point?


sj - Dec 08, 2014 9:09:43 am PST #26621 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Was it just me or was that the most anti-climactic, boring episode of OUAT?


Fred Pete - Dec 08, 2014 10:57:42 am PST #26622 of 30001
Ann, that's a ferret.

I'm not really sure what's going on with OUAT. The main story line seems to be resolved, but the Rumplestiltskin story line is supposed to generate another hour of drama?

On the other hand, I liked Kristoff's "If that's what marriage is like, then I want no part of it!" moment.


sj - Dec 08, 2014 12:38:15 pm PST #26623 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I'm not really sure what's going on with OUAT. The main story line seems to be resolved, but the Rumplestiltskin story line is supposed to generate another hour of drama?

And when exactly did Rumple decide to go all bad and power hungry again? Last season ended with him wanting to honor his son's sacrifice, and this season started with him being all deceptive and evil. There was no transition there.


Typo Boy - Dec 08, 2014 12:51:20 pm PST #26624 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

His killing the wicked witch and then concealing the fact was a pretty big hint. And he could not quite bring himself to give the real dagger to Belle, slipping her a fake and keeping it instead. (I think that latter was early this season.) So we see him slip step by step. I mean even back in the past when full blown evil he wipe his own memory to honor his sons sacrifice. Which did not keep him from being full blown evil. So foreshadowed pretty well.


Ginger - Dec 08, 2014 12:51:21 pm PST #26625 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I believe the lesson from OUAT is "Hate drives out love. Love drives out hate. No, wait. First you get the women, then you get the money, then you... okay, can we forget that?" All those years of hate wiped away in five minutes with one scrap of paper.

Also, what keeps Hook from telling Emma that Rumple has his heart?


sj - Dec 08, 2014 1:39:58 pm PST #26626 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

His killing the wicked witch and then concealing the fact was a pretty big hint.

True, I completely wiped that part from my own mind. But now he's just not conflicted evil, but I completely want to take over the world evil.


-t - Dec 08, 2014 4:04:14 pm PST #26627 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I didn't think it was so bad. The resolution was too easy, but in the tradition of Christmas miracle episodes.

And those are some good villains in the preview for next week.