Cordelia: You're him. You're Angel's son. Connor: It's not like I got to choose.

'Hell Bound'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


-t - Nov 28, 2014 4:21:28 pm PST #26540 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Is no one watching Gotham, or is it not interesting enough to discuss?

I'm watching, just caught up on this week. Sometimes I feel like this is some kind of AU Gotham where Bruce does not become Batman, but maybe they will pull off the progression, somehow. I really enjoyed that "can you teach me to fight?" exchange with Alfred.

I also like Selina's goggles, although this childhood relationship between the two of them boggles me.

I do feel like the show is generally getting better. Although I'm not sure I get exactly what it is trying to do, I have more of a sense that somebody does.


-t - Nov 28, 2014 4:24:50 pm PST #26541 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I'm sure I had stuff to say about The Flash and Sleepy Hollow, too, but I forgot. Probably someone else already said anything I would have come up with of interest by now anyway.


-t - Nov 28, 2014 7:27:22 pm PST #26542 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Starting to watch Grimm reminded me that I meant to comment on last week's Grimm - I appreciated the Alice in Wonderland touch of Adelind's baby turning into a pig.


-t - Nov 28, 2014 8:16:32 pm PST #26543 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

§ ita § - Nov 29, 2014 10:46:55 am PST #26544 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Was there pepper?

I seem to think I can't watch shows too close to Supernatural in premise (well, Lost Girl had radical distinctions, but when they went MOTW, it left me helpless in laughter and limp in disinterest). -t, you are excused from the exercise, but how would other viewers draw a Venn diagram of horror and urban fantasy and place Grimm on it?

I'm sure I had stuff to say about The Flash and Sleepy Hollow

Flash feels to me like they're stalling with the long game mystery, but it's so damned cute and charismatic, I'm gonna keep showing up. I worry about the Iris subplot. It's frustrating, and her recalcitrance makes me worry I won't like her soon.

Sleepy Hollow: Katrina is still not cool, good lord. Her son is playing her like a Stradivarius. I don't get her net positive.


Steph L. - Nov 29, 2014 10:57:32 am PST #26545 of 30001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Sleepy Hollow: Katrina is still not cool, good lord. Her son is playing her like a Stradivarius. I don't get her net positive.

Man, seriously. I'm tired of being *told* that she's a powerful witch, crafty spy, etc., when all we're *shown* is that she can talk through a mirror and be a handy womb for Moloch, as well as the prize in the fight between Headless and Ichabod. I'm not sure I like her enough to even want her to get some agency, though -- I'd rather she just go away.


-t - Nov 29, 2014 11:17:16 am PST #26546 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

There was not pepper, but I give them points for orchestrating the scene so that I felt the lack of pepper, if that makes sense.

I know there's been a time or two when I said to myself "Oh, that's why we should keep Katrina" but now I can't remember what they were. Pretty sure they were when she was working directly with Abby, but what she did I can't recall. Something witchy, presumably.

Really liked Iris's story this week. I mostly want Joe to tell her everything so she can make some informed decisions.


§ ita § - Nov 29, 2014 12:35:19 pm PST #26547 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Really liked Iris's story this week. I mostly want Joe to tell her everything so she can make some informed decisions.

It's because she keeps charging forward, risk bedamned, even when everyone tells her there's risk and secrets. Sure, she can overpower the Clock guy, but she's relatively fragile, vulnerable, and a lot of people's Achilles heel.

I don't dislike her yet, but they better fix their Will Tippen as quick as possible.

I'm not sure I like her enough to even want her to get some agency, though -- I'd rather she just go away.

Co-signed.


-t - Nov 29, 2014 1:00:04 pm PST #26548 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

she's relatively fragile, vulnerable, and a lot of people's Achilles heel.

Does she know all that, though? I don't think she does. And just in general, keeping information from her does not make her safer.


§ ita § - Nov 29, 2014 2:11:09 pm PST #26549 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Does she know all that, though? I don't think she does.

It's not like a) she hasn't been told and b) it's not common sense. I'd be hesitant to tell her myself, because she doesn't seem to grasp the obvious severity of the situation.