You turned evil a lot faster than I thought you would.

Angel ,'Just Rewards (2)'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

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Typo Boy - Oct 23, 2014 9:30:21 pm PDT #26169 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

More thoughts on Forever. I have a guess as to where the curse comes from (though not the how) based on a single facial expression.

Back in the pilot, when Henry was trying to keep the slave from being thrown overboard, the expression on the slaves face was not "Oh what a noble, if futile gesture". It was WTF to the bazillionth.

The way I interpret this is "You had nothing to say surrounded by people in chains on their way to being sold, but when one of us is to be killed in front of you THEN it is too much for you. Where were you the rest of voyage?"

In short, Henry was the good man who was silent in the face of evil until it was too late. Now who cast the curse I don't know. The slave's curse as he died? Some god or spirit? But the point of the curse was "You valued life but not freedom? Then you shall have life till you are sick of it, with no freedom to choose to end it." Anyway, that is what I got out of a single facial expression.


Connie Neil - Oct 23, 2014 9:47:18 pm PDT #26170 of 30001
brillig

Except how does that explain Adam?


Typo Boy - Oct 23, 2014 9:57:01 pm PDT #26171 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

If one person can be cursed so can another. We don't know Adam's back story yet, but it does not have to be exactly the same; to be consistent with this theory all that would be needed would be for Adam to have been cursed for having (at one time) valued life over the things that made life worth living.


Tom Scola - Oct 24, 2014 6:10:59 am PDT #26172 of 30001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

The Secret History of John Constantine


§ ita § - Oct 24, 2014 7:35:05 am PDT #26173 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The guy who plays Iris' detective boyfriend looks like Misha Collins. It creeps me out.

[link]


Zenkitty - Oct 24, 2014 9:57:57 am PDT #26174 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Tom, that's an excellent article on Constantine, thanks for linking.


Steph L. - Oct 24, 2014 1:40:55 pm PDT #26175 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

"Commercial" for Henry Parish, Attorney at Law: [link]

AWESOME.

"Got food poisoning from sin eating?"


Frankenbuddha - Oct 24, 2014 5:03:03 pm PDT #26176 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

That was awesome. Anybody dared to try the phone number?


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 24, 2014 6:04:38 pm PDT #26177 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Constantine was not terrible, but the writing was kind of pedestrian. At least Matt Ryan seems like a good fit for the role.


Zenkitty - Oct 24, 2014 6:18:52 pm PDT #26178 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I liked Constantine. Not in love yet, but I'm in for more. John seems, so far, pretty much the same John as in the comics, with, predictably, less smoking and swearing. The reason he's now in America makes sense, and I like this odd new version of Chas. There was a bit too much of the girl/MacGuffin, though I guess she's supposed to be the Ordinary Jane that the audience who doesn't know John is meant to identify with, so I guess that's to be expected in a pilot. From what I've read, she was originally meant to be a continuing character, but the writers decided to send her on her way and bring in a different woman character as a regular - hopefully someone more interesting and less of a damsel. The actor who plays Constantine did great, I can't imagine them finding a better one. He moves and speaks a little faster than I imagine the "real" John would, but hey, we've only got 42 minutes.