I really loved this week's Doctor Who. Old school monsters with some spots of humor and rumblings of Things to Come.
Mal: You are very much lacking in imagination. Zoe: I imagine that's so, sir.
'Out Of Gas'
Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon
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Pix - Oct 19, 2014 6:37:34 pm PDT #26102 of 30001
The status is NOT quo.
beekaytee - Oct 19, 2014 8:16:51 pm PDT #26103 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant
I thought the visual effects in this week's Who were the best I've ever seen. Very cool. Very creepy.
Polter-Cow - Oct 19, 2014 9:49:40 pm PDT #26104 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Right, bonny?? This is supposed to be a low-budget show but holy cats.
Scrappy - Oct 20, 2014 5:31:23 am PDT #26105 of 30001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
Best episode of this season, I think.
beekaytee - Oct 20, 2014 8:30:25 am PDT #26106 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant
Agreed!
The baddies were amazing. Sort of rota-scope. Sort of impressionism. Plus, plus.
So much awesome.
Frankenbuddha - Oct 20, 2014 8:51:26 am PDT #26107 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
I really enjoyed this episode as well. Not much more to add, except I liked Clara taking her turn at being "The Doctor".
billytea - Oct 20, 2014 10:21:52 am PDT #26108 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.
Clara with the Twelfth Doctor is now my favourite Moffat-era companion. Possibly my favourite of all the new Who companions.
This episode was hilarious.
Typo Boy - Oct 20, 2014 2:28:37 pm PDT #26109 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
And with a enough darkness in the humor to give it bite. "You were an excellent Doctor. Goodness had nothing to with it."
The bit with the hairband was great too - the sheer exasperation with self-sacrificing lack of common sense. Paraphrase: "If you want to stay, I'll take the hairband and go. And I'll keep it always to remind me you gave your life for it."
Frankenbuddha - Oct 20, 2014 4:39:14 pm PDT #26110 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
"You were an excellent Doctor. Goodness had nothing to with it."
Loved that. Loved it.
Sleepy Hollow: So anybody else getting the feeling they are setting up a vibe between Abbie and Hawley?
billytea - Oct 20, 2014 4:42:57 pm PDT #26111 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.
That bit with the hairband was excellent. (As was the hermit crab TARDIS.) There's a good collection of quotes from the ep here: [link]
That line about being an excellent Doctor I felt was a bit off. It certainly fit this year's themes, but it was perhaps a bit heavy-handed. Plus, Clara had been good (conventionally speaking) in the role. Unlike Twelve, she didn't show any ruthlessness about gaining advantage from people about to die, she was clearly affected by 22's fate, she came across as concerned about the lives she was trying to protect, not just trying to win against the threat du jour.
(Twelve too seemed to have more room for compassion with less call on him to act. At the end, dealing with the odious Fenton, there was a contrast between Fenton's dismissal of the dead and the Doctor's accounting for them.)
The Doctor's statement to Clara could be construed as saying that competence rather than compassion is what made her so effective. (It would be interesting if he were to go so far as to claim that compassion would make the Doctor less effective, since he's argued this point repeatedly against Daleks, Cybermen et al.) But the delivery felt wrong for that, as it's not really something for which Clara needed to be chastened there.
On the other hand, there were points about which Clara could quite legitimately be pulled up, most obviously her breezy treatment of Danny. (For the record, I don't think the Doctor was as approving as he sounded about her talent for deception.) I think too that there's something in her being so concerned for the Doctor's approval that she ignored a call from Danny to press the point. (I don't know if the Doctor thought that was unseemly given that there'd been a death toll; I don't think he really has enough credibility to make an issue of it.)
Anyway, for all that I think that line was trying a bit too hard to be clever (and the Doctor had in fact previously said both that she was good and had made a fine Doctor), I liked how this episode broadened the emotional landscape of both leads. Clara's becoming more accepting of the Doctor's morality, and more practiced at emulating it; the Doctor, it seems to me, is starting to question it a bit, seeing it from the outside with Clara. (I think the last four episodes have all, in different ways, given the Doctor something to ponder.)