Zoe: Preacher, don't the Bible have some pretty specific things to say about killing? Book: Quite specific. It is, however, somewhat fuzzier on the subject of kneecaps.

'War Stories'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Polter-Cow - Sep 07, 2014 4:56:17 pm PDT #25644 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I liked Clara quite a lot in this one too. Both this ep and the first one, she had to confront the villain without the Doctor and manage by her own wits, and did quite well.

I'm enjoying that too.

I, on the other hand, kind of love that.

He seems to be enjoying being the Doctor less. He's colder and more callous. I'm interested to see where it goes, and I'm sure I'll love him by the finale, but it's taking some time to get used to.


Jessica - Sep 07, 2014 5:31:05 pm PDT #25645 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

That was a LOT of fun. I agree wholeheartedly with everything billytea said.

Also loved the bit where the Doctor very slowly realizes Robin Hood's not part of the robots' plan. "Yeah that'd be a rubbish plan...yeah...it would...oh."


billytea - Sep 07, 2014 5:52:04 pm PDT #25646 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Also loved the bit where the Doctor very slowly realizes Robin Hood's not part of the robots' plan. "Yeah that'd be a rubbish plan...yeah...it would...oh."

While the Sheriff is looking at him like "That's insane. Who does your plans? Wile E. Coyote? Loki? John Crichton?"


§ ita § - Sep 08, 2014 5:48:35 am PDT #25647 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't think that FB is broadcast. You have to look for it (or follow it, or like it), just like a post on IO9 or whatever.

If the show goes to the extent of creating content about the next episode, it's "broadcast". I don't consider "running right after the preceding episode" the criterion--I consider "designed by the production to be consumed before the episode" as what makes the different.


Steph L. - Sep 08, 2014 6:15:25 am PDT #25648 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

That's fine, and I won't whitefont in the future, and perhaps I am way too literal, but I wouldn't have (and obviously didn't) correlated online-exclusive content "designed by the production to be consumed before the episode" to equal "broadcast."

But now I know, and unless other people object, I won't whitefont. It's easier anyway.


DebetEsse - Sep 08, 2014 6:54:38 am PDT #25649 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

If the show goes to the extent of creating content about the next episode, it's "broadcast". I don't consider "running right after the preceding episode" the criterion--I consider "designed by the production to be consumed before the episode" as what makes the different.

I disagree with this, as it would seem to include things like teaser scenes from an ep that you can get online, which I DO think should be whitefonted. I'm not sure I have good, bright-line criteria, though


beekaytee - Sep 08, 2014 7:00:03 am PDT #25650 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

I wish I understood the clear bright-line criteria better because I feel like I get chastised if I do whitefont or if I don't.

So, instead of just never venturing into 'dangerous' waters, I defaulted to always whitefonting anything I am not sure of.

Obviously, I wasn't thinking about how inconvenient that might be for device users so now I'm back to thinking I should just not comment.

Though, now I'm concerned about having a Bureaucracy conversation in the wrong thread!

On topic: I wonder if they made Robin's wig and beard so badly to make us assume he was a robot, right along with the Doctor. Seriously, that was some bad hair.


§ ita § - Sep 08, 2014 7:08:29 am PDT #25651 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I agree with you on the teaser scenes that are just chunks of the show, actually, Debet.

But I think the marketing considers FB fair ground for promoting their show, and it feels like pushing back against the rise of social media to ignore or separate it. I will rarely see FB material, but from what I have gathered, it seems to be of the quality and type that would air on TV maybe in the ad break of another show.

That's never been verboten or mandatory white, right?


Steph L. - Sep 08, 2014 7:16:50 am PDT #25652 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

So, instead of just never venturing into 'dangerous' waters, I defaulted to always whitefonting anything I am not sure of.

Me, too. I was just trying to err on the side of non-spoily caution.

Obviously, I wasn't thinking about how inconvenient that might be for device users so now I'm back to thinking I should just not comment.

Yeah, I may just save my promo squee for FB, because I don't get it and it hurts my brain to try to parse out what's the equivalent of "broadcast."

I agree with you on the teaser scenes that are just chunks of the show, actually, Debet.

And it's this kind of reasoning that makes me think I just need to keep my squee to FB. Because this differentiation ("teaser" vs "promo") makes no sense to me. Every "promo" I've seen *is* chunks of upcoming shows. What else would a "promo" be? How is a 1:20 clip on FB labelled a "promo" different than a :20 clip on FB labelled a "teaser"? It's all content from upcoming shows. One is just shorter than the other. But a "promo" (longer content from upcoming shows) can be blackfonted while a "teaser" (shorter content...from upcoming shows) must be whitefonted? That's a fine distinction to parse that I guess I don't understand.


Typo Boy - Sep 08, 2014 10:28:42 pm PDT #25653 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

(Non-spoilery other than the whitefonted one sentence quote, which is super spoilery.)

HBO is having their free sample week (ends Tuesday). Took advantage of it to see the TruBlood finale. The ending struck me as truly stupid. Apparently the writers knew it was stupid even as they wrote it. The following line

Sookie (plaintively): you're gonna die cause I got no self-respect?

One of a number of really good lines in a really bad finale, and one that focuses on episode's flaws.