Right. Sir. Honey.

Zoe ,'The Train Job'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


DebetEsse - Sep 08, 2014 6:54:38 am PDT #25649 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

If the show goes to the extent of creating content about the next episode, it's "broadcast". I don't consider "running right after the preceding episode" the criterion--I consider "designed by the production to be consumed before the episode" as what makes the different.

I disagree with this, as it would seem to include things like teaser scenes from an ep that you can get online, which I DO think should be whitefonted. I'm not sure I have good, bright-line criteria, though


beekaytee - Sep 08, 2014 7:00:03 am PDT #25650 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

I wish I understood the clear bright-line criteria better because I feel like I get chastised if I do whitefont or if I don't.

So, instead of just never venturing into 'dangerous' waters, I defaulted to always whitefonting anything I am not sure of.

Obviously, I wasn't thinking about how inconvenient that might be for device users so now I'm back to thinking I should just not comment.

Though, now I'm concerned about having a Bureaucracy conversation in the wrong thread!

On topic: I wonder if they made Robin's wig and beard so badly to make us assume he was a robot, right along with the Doctor. Seriously, that was some bad hair.


§ ita § - Sep 08, 2014 7:08:29 am PDT #25651 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I agree with you on the teaser scenes that are just chunks of the show, actually, Debet.

But I think the marketing considers FB fair ground for promoting their show, and it feels like pushing back against the rise of social media to ignore or separate it. I will rarely see FB material, but from what I have gathered, it seems to be of the quality and type that would air on TV maybe in the ad break of another show.

That's never been verboten or mandatory white, right?


Steph L. - Sep 08, 2014 7:16:50 am PDT #25652 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

So, instead of just never venturing into 'dangerous' waters, I defaulted to always whitefonting anything I am not sure of.

Me, too. I was just trying to err on the side of non-spoily caution.

Obviously, I wasn't thinking about how inconvenient that might be for device users so now I'm back to thinking I should just not comment.

Yeah, I may just save my promo squee for FB, because I don't get it and it hurts my brain to try to parse out what's the equivalent of "broadcast."

I agree with you on the teaser scenes that are just chunks of the show, actually, Debet.

And it's this kind of reasoning that makes me think I just need to keep my squee to FB. Because this differentiation ("teaser" vs "promo") makes no sense to me. Every "promo" I've seen *is* chunks of upcoming shows. What else would a "promo" be? How is a 1:20 clip on FB labelled a "promo" different than a :20 clip on FB labelled a "teaser"? It's all content from upcoming shows. One is just shorter than the other. But a "promo" (longer content from upcoming shows) can be blackfonted while a "teaser" (shorter content...from upcoming shows) must be whitefonted? That's a fine distinction to parse that I guess I don't understand.


Typo Boy - Sep 08, 2014 10:28:42 pm PDT #25653 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

(Non-spoilery other than the whitefonted one sentence quote, which is super spoilery.)

HBO is having their free sample week (ends Tuesday). Took advantage of it to see the TruBlood finale. The ending struck me as truly stupid. Apparently the writers knew it was stupid even as they wrote it. The following line

Sookie (plaintively): you're gonna die cause I got no self-respect?

One of a number of really good lines in a really bad finale, and one that focuses on episode's flaws.


Tom Scola - Sep 10, 2014 7:36:02 am PDT #25654 of 30001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Greg Berlanti, Andrew Kreisberg, Jesse L. Martin and Candice Patton Talk THE FLASH: [link]

KREISBERG: One of the biggest things that I’ve learned working with Greg is that, if you have a great idea for Episode 10, do it in Episode 5. In within an episode itself, I’ll pitch him a story and say, “We’re building up to this great moment in Act 4,” and he’ll say, “Do it in the teaser.”

That sounds about right.


§ ita § - Sep 10, 2014 4:24:42 pm PDT #25655 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The Advocate gets shamed for puff LGBTQ-inclusive article on Teen Wolf: [link] At time of reading, one commenter thinks the article has a point and pages and pages of comments call out the article and the show for LGBTQ hypocrisy.

Apparently we'll see Danny again because of fan backlash about his evaporation in the last season. That's barely even good news.


Tom Scola - Sep 11, 2014 5:49:11 am PDT #25656 of 30001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

billytea - Sep 11, 2014 5:59:27 am PDT #25657 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

I have - finally - seen "The Doctor's Wife", and I may have a new favourite Doctor Who quote: "Biting's excellent! It's like kissing, but there's a winner."


WindSparrow - Sep 11, 2014 7:27:30 am PDT #25658 of 30001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Oh yes, that is a quote of magnificence.