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Calli - Aug 31, 2014 1:57:48 am PDT #25591 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

The Doctor doesn't take soldiers as companions? Leela might have something to say about that.

As would Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart.


DebetEsse - Aug 31, 2014 1:59:12 am PDT #25592 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I can actually buy that as a post-Time War thing.


billytea - Aug 31, 2014 2:20:23 am PDT #25593 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

The Doctor doesn't take soldiers as companions? Leela might have something to say about that.

So might Jamie. And Ben.


Typo Boy - Aug 31, 2014 7:30:09 am PDT #25594 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I suppose there are technicalities for all of them. The Brigadier never really lived in the Tardis, and only traveled in it occasionally. Ben was an able seaman and might have corrected anyone who called him a soldier. Jamie was a piper. But piping was important to keeping time and giving orders during battles (like drummers). So that would have been the hardest to get around. He might have challenged to a duel anyone who got too insistent about his not being a soldier.


WindSparrow - Aug 31, 2014 8:54:37 am PDT #25595 of 30001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

As it seems new and specific to this Doctor, the no-soldier rule might be a reaction to recovered War Doctor memories, Gallifrey being hidden rather than destroyed notwithstanding. Pretty sure Centurians, however plastic, count as soldiers.

ETA: Anybody else suddenly have an urge to see this Doctor have a conversation with Jack Harkness?

Just me, then?


Anne W. - Aug 31, 2014 9:03:07 am PDT #25596 of 30001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

That makes sense as a way to reconcile the no-soldier rule with the Doctor's past, but I still got the overall feeling that the no-soldier rule is primarily there to set up conflict in regards to Danny Pink coming on board the TARDIS. It works, but it still feels lazy and contrived.


Calli - Aug 31, 2014 11:26:24 am PDT #25597 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

ETA: Anybody else suddenly have an urge to see this Doctor have a conversation with Jack Harkness?

Jack would still flirt like whoa. Could be fun.


-t - Aug 31, 2014 11:56:52 am PDT #25598 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I can actually buy that as a post-Time War thing.

Kinda seemed like a decision he had come to right then after the Dalek saw hatred at his core, to me.

I liked this episode. The Doctor is still figuring out who he is which I find interesting, and this is the best I've like Clara. Not into the Mr. Pink story, really, but maybe that will get better.


Jon B. - Aug 31, 2014 12:10:51 pm PDT #25599 of 30001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Surely there's a real (and not just metaphorical) connection between Mr. Pink & Ms. Blue?


Theodosia - Sep 01, 2014 3:07:16 am PDT #25600 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I wondered that myself, Jon.