You know me! I'm like, "Go school! It's your birthday!" Or something to that effect.

Willow ,'Empty Places'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Jon B. - Aug 25, 2014 5:53:40 am PDT #25543 of 30001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Don't forget this Capaldi gem: [link]


beekaytee - Aug 25, 2014 3:06:22 pm PDT #25544 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

I watched a segment of BBC Breakfast featuring Peter Capaldi that included a couple of clips from upcoming episodes.

I have to say, the clips erased any reservations I might have had about the 12th. I can't wait to see what's next!

Favorite line: As they walk down a hallway, the Doctor says of Clara, "She's not my companion she's my...what it is?" Clara retorts, "I'm his carer." "Oh yes, he finishes, "she cares so I don't have to ."

Yep. That's the Doctor I had hoped for.


billytea - Aug 25, 2014 3:46:10 pm PDT #25545 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Yep. That's the Doctor I had hoped for.

I like where this is heading. I loved the Doctor's callousness when Clara got trapped during their escape - and she only got trapped ensuring the Doctor made it out too - especially "You could at least leave me the sonic screwdriver." "...I might need it." [Leaves]


beekaytee - Aug 25, 2014 4:01:07 pm PDT #25546 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

Loved that too!

What I liked about what I saw even more than the moment you mentioned though, was that sonic moment felt...as intended, I'm sure, pretty callous whereas the most recent thing felt like 'Team Curmudgeon. Go US !'

I can really get behind that as it seems more like the Doctor traveling with his granddaughter .

With less focus on smoochy-smoochy, perhaps they can spend more energy on actually, you know, plot .


billytea - Aug 25, 2014 4:14:02 pm PDT #25547 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

I agree completely. I don't think Moffatt does that other stuff terribly well, for all that Coupling remains one of the funniest TV shows I've ever seen. I'm happy to see Doctor Who stepping away from it.

I think it'll be interesting comparing Capaldi's Doctor to the First Doctor, the only other Doctor played by someone over 50, and also quite cantankerous. In fact, as initially envisaged, he was frequently rather less than heroic; his companions seemed to be the real protagonists, with the Doctor being more of a wild card. On the commentary for one adventure (The Aztecs, I think), you have Verity Lambert (the first showrunner) commenting that Sydney Newman suggested to her that the Doctor should be quite unpredictable; as then they could use him to push the plot in almost any direction they wanted to go.

In conclusion, let me just say: "There is NOTHING more important than my egomania!"


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 25, 2014 4:16:08 pm PDT #25548 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I am all for an older actor in the role. Despite first encountering Dr. Who during the Tom Baker era on PBS, I was utterly delighted by Richard Hurndall's depiction of the First Doctor.


billytea - Aug 25, 2014 4:23:32 pm PDT #25549 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

I am all for an older actor in the role. Despite first encountering Dr. Who during the Tom Baker era on PBS, I was utterly delighted by Richard Hurndall's depiction of the First Doctor.

I just watched The Five Doctors last weekend! Richard Hurndall did very well evoking Hartnell. Really, the first three Doctors bickering with one another is a joy. (Likewise the best thing in The Three Doctors.)

The DVD releases of the classic Who adventures are superb, and I'm enjoying greatly watching something of the First Doctor, really for the first time ever. Hartnell is a refreshing contrast to the stable elements that defined the show later on.


§ ita § - Aug 25, 2014 4:25:26 pm PDT #25550 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm losing track of what's being whitefonted? Are these unaired details?


Anne W. - Aug 25, 2014 4:38:18 pm PDT #25551 of 30001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

This screencap edit cracked me up, in light of Capaldi's work on "The Thick of It."


Juliebird - Aug 25, 2014 4:47:25 pm PDT #25552 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I want to always watch DW on the big screen!

Really enjoyed that, and Coleman had some really great scenes that just tore me apart.

I didn't like the end, because I didn't enjoy Missy, the way she acted/was portrayed, the way she looked, the way the scene was filmed, all of the above? It wasn't an exciting peak at a possible big bad, it was annoying and kind of sucked all the joyful feeling from the rest of the ep and left me filled with dread at having to endure more annoying scenes with her.

But, moving past that: yay!