Yeah, Ollie at the dinner felt really contrived. None of the Arrow Gang had an inkling that this might be a really bad idea, particularly Ollie himself?

I did like the portrayal of the Clock King. Goofy exploding Star Trek computers aside.

I don't see what Ollie gains by telling Quentin. As he said recently, too many people know his secret already. Of course, if Ollie keeps showing up around him with Sara both in and out of costume, he's going to figure it out.

I'm curious why a beat cop would get called in off hours for a homicide. (And then left alone with the body so his vigilante friends can muck up the crime scene.) It's like the writers forget he's not a detective any more.

I'm curious why a beat cop would get called in off hours for a homicide

Quentin is like the ONLY cop in the Starling City. I mostly laugh, because on the scale of various unbelievable things happening on this show, that's relatively small stuff.

Three half naked people hitting each other with sticks.

Remember even Felicity lost her shirt at the end! Nakedness all over the place! I'm sure if they had time to put Roy in the mix, he'd have been shirtless too.

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Well, that's convenient for cross-overs.

I don't see what Ollie gains by telling Quentin.

It's not about what Ollie gains, and I don't need Ollie to *tell* Quentin; I just think it's beyond credulity (yes, I know this is a comic-book show and therefore stretches/ignores credulity all the time) that Quentin has been in such close physical proximity to the Arrow so many times and hasn't figured it out. The hood doesn't cover THAT much of Ollie's face. And Quentin is a detective. I mean, seriously. And he knows the identity of the Arrow's tech genius, who just happens to ALSO be Oliver Queen's assistant. Is that maybe a tiny bit suspicious?

I'm sure if they had time to put Roy in the mix, he'd have been shirtless too.

Slade could have been shirtless at Stately Queen Manor. I would have been fine with that.

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Source of above, with amusing commentary.

I agree, Quentin needs to figure it out soon. Or if Ollie does end up telling him, his reaction being "Right. Tell me something I don't know." I just don't see why Ollie would feel inclined to tell him at this point.

Another thing I liked was that Ollie and Digg had their backs turned while Felicity had her shirt off. It just felt right for the characters and their relationship. It will be interesting to see if as the show progresses the three of them reach a more practical warrior/medic mentality about those things. (Though that would likely mean poor Felicity getting more scars.)

Source of above, with amusing commentary.

That's hilarious.

Didn't Quentin have it figured out last season, and then Ollie had Diggle do something while Ollie was with Quentin? I'm not remembering the details, but it's the only excuse I can think of for why Quentin hasn't figured it out yet.

He saw Ollie on a security tape, grabbing the bag with his Arrow gear that he had stashed earlier. But Ollie planned that so that he could divert attention from himself -- he even said, "I come back to town, and suddenly there's a vigilante; eventually the police will realize that's not a coincidence" (paraphrasing). And then while he was under house arrest, Diggle went out in the hood and busted some criminals, so it looked like there was no way it could be Ollie in the hood.

So yeah, Quentin did explicitly rule Ollie out, but, again, he's been working in close physical proximity to the Arrow all season -- within arms' reach several times, and not always in low light.

I actually would like Ollie to out himself to Quentin, and have Quentin respond with, "I've known for months. How unobservant do you think I am? I'm a detective." Like, NBD, you're the hood guy. Let's fight crime.

The Quentin not knowing is the only thing that is bothering me- not only is he RIGHT next to him, and knows Felicity works for both, his daughter Sara is "dating" Oliver Queen and running around as a superhero with The Arrow. And Laurel and Oliver have a past, and The Arrow was close to Laurel as well.

The other "staining credulity" things I can handwave because of the world of the show, but I can't believe that a detective would not have figured this out by now!