Simon: I, uh... I never-never shot anyone before. Book: I was there, son. I'm fair sure you haven't shot anyone yet.

'War Stories'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


quester - Feb 26, 2014 4:21:20 pm PST #24548 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

This ridiculous show just has no brakes, hasn't it?

I was thinking the same thing!

I hope Felicity and Sara continue to bond. I liked Sara giving her useful pointers about punching.


Steph L. - Feb 26, 2014 5:34:49 pm PST #24549 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Also, I'm assuming Tumblr collapsed under the weight of Ollie telling Felicity she'll always be his girl. (I am a Tumbler naif -- even though I apparently signed up for one -- and wouldn't even know where to look for Arrow stuff, although I assume it wouldn't be difficult. I think I'll just eagerly await Jenny Crusie's post tomorrow.)


Vonnie K - Feb 26, 2014 6:48:38 pm PST #24550 of 30001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Not quite. Some shippers, who have been stewing in bitterness for 3 weeks over Oliver/Sara, are all indignant and stuff, thinking that comment came over as patronizing and that Oliver petted her like a little girl. Whereas I am all "Felicity was high as a kite on oxy and adorable as fuck. Your comment is invalid."

I ship Oliver/Felicity pretty hard, but I'ma stay the hell away from the Arrow shipperdom because a lot of those folks are scaaaaaary.


Sheryl - Feb 27, 2014 12:46:36 pm PST #24551 of 30001
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Is there a fandom that =doesn't= have some scary shippers?

(Not sure how rhetorical that question is...)


Vonnie K - Feb 27, 2014 12:55:33 pm PST #24552 of 30001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

True dat. It's been a while since I've really been invested in a pairing so I'd forgotten what it was like. Answer: NOT GREAT.

Anyway, the opinion on this ep appears pretty divided. I dunno. Maybe I have rose-coloured glasses on but I thought it was pretty great and that the characterization bits were nicely on point.


Steph L. - Feb 27, 2014 12:57:09 pm PST #24553 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Anyway, the opinion on this ep appears pretty divided.

Yeah, Jenny Crusie is really negative on it. I thought it was pretty good, although I would have liked more of the Clock King and less of the most awkward family dinner EVER.


Vonnie K - Feb 27, 2014 1:12:42 pm PST #24554 of 30001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Yeah, I read the first line of JC's post and hightailed it outta there as I did not want my mellow harshed.

The Clock King was fabulous. He's not a member of the Suicide Squad in comics, correct? I would love to aee him again. Oliver's no kill policy is enabling some fun recurring villains, which I dig.


billytea - Feb 27, 2014 1:16:31 pm PST #24555 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Oliver's no kill policy is enabling some fun recurring villains, which I dig.

And tested better than the alternative name of "Catch and release policy".


Steph L. - Feb 27, 2014 1:34:12 pm PST #24556 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

The Clock King was fabulous. He's not a member of the Suicide Squad in comics, correct?

Not any version I read, although that doesn't mean he wasn't. t edit Wikipedia says he was. So there's a possibility Amanda Waller will grab him up.


Ginger - Feb 27, 2014 1:38:55 pm PST #24557 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Crusie appears to have seen an different episode than I did.

A few points:

There is no reason for Oliver not to tell Thea the truth.

Exactly how does one start that conversation? Also, everyone is lying to Thea. Why should Olly be different? I anticipate one giant info dump on poor Thea, in which Merlin shows up and says, "Honey, I'm home," then Ollie has to reveal he's the Arrow.

There is no reason for Oliver not to tell Quentin he’s the Arrow.

I like to think Quentin has his suspicions, but he's a cop. He would be obliged to arrest a vigilante.

Crusie's "lying, hypocritical, judgmental takedowns of the people the hero has injured and continues to injure" was my finally calling out Laurel on her whiny, everything happens to me-me-me shtick.

“I have loved you for half my life” except when I was doing your sister and helping you torpedo your relationship with the man who really loved you,

I concede "doing your sister," but blaming Ollie for torpedoing her relationship with Tommy is a vast oversimplification.

If Oliver liquidates 800,000 shares, doesn’t Isabel buy them?

Okay, she has a point.