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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

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This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


billytea - Feb 27, 2014 1:16:31 pm PST #24555 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Oliver's no kill policy is enabling some fun recurring villains, which I dig.

And tested better than the alternative name of "Catch and release policy".


Steph L. - Feb 27, 2014 1:34:12 pm PST #24556 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

The Clock King was fabulous. He's not a member of the Suicide Squad in comics, correct?

Not any version I read, although that doesn't mean he wasn't. t edit Wikipedia says he was. So there's a possibility Amanda Waller will grab him up.


Ginger - Feb 27, 2014 1:38:55 pm PST #24557 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Crusie appears to have seen an different episode than I did.

A few points:

There is no reason for Oliver not to tell Thea the truth.

Exactly how does one start that conversation? Also, everyone is lying to Thea. Why should Olly be different? I anticipate one giant info dump on poor Thea, in which Merlin shows up and says, "Honey, I'm home," then Ollie has to reveal he's the Arrow.

There is no reason for Oliver not to tell Quentin he’s the Arrow.

I like to think Quentin has his suspicions, but he's a cop. He would be obliged to arrest a vigilante.

Crusie's "lying, hypocritical, judgmental takedowns of the people the hero has injured and continues to injure" was my finally calling out Laurel on her whiny, everything happens to me-me-me shtick.

“I have loved you for half my life” except when I was doing your sister and helping you torpedo your relationship with the man who really loved you,

I concede "doing your sister," but blaming Ollie for torpedoing her relationship with Tommy is a vast oversimplification.

If Oliver liquidates 800,000 shares, doesn’t Isabel buy them?

Okay, she has a point.


Steph L. - Feb 27, 2014 1:44:39 pm PST #24558 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

There is no reason for Oliver not to tell Quentin he’s the Arrow.

I like to think Quentin has his suspicions, but he's a cop. He would be obliged to arrest a vigilante.

I would have said yes last season, but Quentin has been working with the Arrow. I think the time for arresting him has come and gone.

Also, Quentin's apology to Ollie was fantastic, other than the whole awkward "I know you're not a killer" line.

And I really wanted to hug him after the most awkward family dinner EVER, when it turns out his ex-wife really IS with the Doctor.

Oh, and I do agree that Sara taking Ollie to the most awkward family dinner EVER was stupid as hell, and really did seem like just a contrivance to get Ollie in proximity to Laurel so he could bust out the Burn Unit.

If Oliver liquidates 800,000 shares, doesn’t Isabel buy them?

Okay, she has a point.

I wondered that, too. But I'm ridiculously willing to handwave certain shit.

finally calling out Laurel on her whiny, everything happens to me-me-me shtick.

Seriously. That needed to happen. Hard.


Vonnie K - Feb 27, 2014 2:02:30 pm PST #24559 of 30001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Like I said, I didn't read her post, but I don't know why she'd be baggin' on Oliver for keeping secrets from Thea and Quentin NOW when this has been going on for the entire season. Sounds like trying to find nits to pick.

finally calling out Laurel on her whiny, everything happens to me-me-me shtick.

Yeah, I found that super-satisfying. I feel like Laurel's about-face was a bit too abrupt though. Ah well. The rest of the show is moving at a sonic speed -- it's high time Laurel caught up to its speed instead of dragging it down, I guess.


Tom Scola - Feb 27, 2014 2:04:42 pm PST #24560 of 30001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Clock King was in the JLU cartoon version of Suicide Squad (called Task Force X because kiddies)


DCJensen - Feb 27, 2014 3:49:23 pm PST #24561 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.

If Oliver liquidates 800,000 shares, doesn’t Isabel buy them?

Okay, she has a point.

I wondered that, too. But I'm ridiculously willing to handwave certain shit.

I just assumed the unspoken was they would set up a straw buyer so they wouldn't lose control of the voting stock.

Plus? It's all done electronically. Who gets cash for shares, and where?


DCJensen - Feb 27, 2014 3:52:42 pm PST #24562 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.

Clock King was in the JLU cartoon version of Suicide Squad (called Task Force X because kiddies)

"Research says that shows with X in the name get better ratings."


Ginger - Feb 27, 2014 3:54:46 pm PST #24563 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

If I sell shares, the proceeds show up as cash in my account.


DCJensen - Feb 27, 2014 4:28:55 pm PST #24564 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.

Yes, but it's not literal cash, it's in your account.

If he sold 800,000 shares, assuming even as little as $10/share, that's $8 Million. Hardly a sum to be quickly converted to folding money to physically steal.