Tact is just not saying true stuff. I'll pass.

Cordelia ,'Dirty Girls'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Zenkitty - Dec 25, 2013 5:26:54 pm PST #24169 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Wait, is the new Doctor Who "Time of the Doctor"?


-t - Dec 25, 2013 5:32:45 pm PST #24170 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Yes. Day is 50th Anniversary, Time is Christmas.


tommyrot - Dec 25, 2013 5:36:55 pm PST #24171 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I thought the whole episode seemed jumbled and off.


Jessica - Dec 25, 2013 5:39:36 pm PST #24172 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Ok, that was fun (and I'm very glad to see Capaldi take over, Matt Smith is adorbs but he was never quite my Doctor), but, um, they never quite explained how his regeneration was going to help? Unless the fact that he can just intimidated the Daleks into leaving? Because otherwise that planet is about to be incinerated.


-t - Dec 25, 2013 5:46:13 pm PST #24173 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

We don't need to whitefont at this point do we?

If Clara's plea for help was a the signal Gallifrey was waiting for to push through then the war is on, now, yes? I'm not clear at all on much of what happened, to be honest. Enjoyed it, yes, but followed what was happening, nsm.


Jessica - Dec 25, 2013 5:47:40 pm PST #24174 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Not technically, but it seemed like a bunch of folks just upstream hadn't watched yet.


-t - Dec 25, 2013 5:55:05 pm PST #24175 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Sure, I'm down with that for a little while longer.


Jon B. - Dec 25, 2013 6:01:49 pm PST #24176 of 30001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

It was enjoyable, but jeez it dragged on at parts. They could have easily written the same story without the extended episode length.


beekaytee - Dec 25, 2013 6:35:56 pm PST #24177 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

I completely agree with Jon and -t. I didn't follow everything and felt it could have been shortened considerably. There were a few lovely moments...and then the rest.

Sigh.

Looking forward to seeing more of Capaldi.

I was intrigued by how abrupt his regeneration was . It seems perhaps a precursor to a more serious, even ferocious, turn of events.

Hm.


Polter-Cow - Dec 25, 2013 6:43:16 pm PST #24178 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I agree, Jon. I spent most of the episode waiting for the regeneration rather than caring about what was happening. It felt very mechanical, a transparent attempt to tie together various elements of Eleven's tenure into one story, and it doesn't quite work. While I do like the idea of the Time Lords attempting to get in through the Crack, the whole plot felt so contrived and artificially constructed that it bugged me. It was clear that Moffat had been tossing out all these things throughout the run with no actual idea what they meant and this was his desperate attempt to make it look like it was real foreshadowing. Don't get me wrong, I know that happens a lot on television (heeeeeeey, Lost), and I LOVE it when it works, but it doesn't here.

Also, I know Moffat changes the rules of the Weeping Angels every fucking time he brings them back, but...that Angel WAS HOLDING CLARA'S FOOT why the hell wasn't she sent back in time okay whatever.

There were some enjoyable naked antics, and Matt Smith's final speech was lovely because yes, wow, I love comparing the regenerations to the fact that we all change throughout our lives, we don't stay the "same person" forever, but I thought I'd be a little more emotional saying goodbye. The Amy Pond cameo was nice; I was hoping there would be one when we saw little Amelia. And the regeneration itself was so abrupt; I was preparing myself for Capaldi and then BOOM. It had the intended disorienting effect.

Farewell, Matt Smith. I wasn't sure about you at first, but I grew to love you a lot. Bring it, Capaldi.