Actually not needing validation right now, but thank you.

Buffy ,'Lies My Parents Told Me'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


-t - Dec 12, 2013 5:51:47 am PST #24137 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I like to think of this as fix-it-fanfiction for Revolution [link]


sj - Dec 12, 2013 8:21:17 am PST #24138 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I loved it a lot, but on looking back, I'm a bit disturbed that both named character who died in the episode were characters of colour. This show is already way too white, and now we're down to Diggle and that's it. Hmmm.

I'm not disagreeing with you about the show being too white, but doesn't Sebastian Blood also count as a character of colour?


Vonnie K - Dec 12, 2013 9:26:22 am PST #24139 of 30001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

doesn't Sebastian Blood also count as a character of colour?

I don't think so? I know Kevin Alejandro is of Mexican descent, but I'd consider him a white Hispanic. And I don't see any evidence from the show that says Sebastian Blood is supposed to be anything but white, which Alejandro's blond curls and blue eyes do nothing to discourage. It would be like saying Cameron Diaz's characters on screen count as characters of colour.

I did learn that Manu Bennett (Slade) is part Maori on his father's side, so Slade might be considered a CoC. It'd be nice if the show acknowledged that heritage though.


Vonnie K - Dec 12, 2013 9:52:11 am PST #24140 of 30001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

So, seriously. How many villains do we have on board this season anyway?

We have Slade --> Sebastian Blood --> Cyrus Gold/Solomon Grundy.

Then there are Ra's al Ghul and the League of Assassins, which are connected to Malcolm Merlyn and Sara Lance.

Ivo connected to both of those threads.

ARGUS and Amanda Waller. Connected to H.I.V.E? Deadshot is still alive and may figure in there somewhere.

Isabel Rochev as a wild card who will probably turn out to be more than meets the eye.

With so many balls in the air, I'm frankly amazed that the show hasn't collapsed from the weight of it all. It's doing some incredible juggling act. I thought League of Assassins was going to be the Big Bad this season, but after this ep, it has to be Slade Wilson, no? Except Slade doesn't feel like an adversary that could be defeated in a season. He feels like a multi-season arch-nemesis.


Tom Scola - Dec 12, 2013 9:57:29 am PST #24141 of 30001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Jeez, I forgot that H.I.V.E. even showed up this season.


DCJensen - Dec 12, 2013 1:57:13 pm PST #24142 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.

What they need on Arrow is some sort of group or association of hero types to combat all of the evil that has shown up.


Dana - Dec 12, 2013 1:58:00 pm PST #24143 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Like, some sort of league? Maybe focused on justice?


Vonnie K - Dec 12, 2013 3:08:22 pm PST #24144 of 30001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

I was just rewatching the episode, as you do (what do you MEAN we have to wait until Jan 15th until the next episode?!) and heard Laurel mention a "Langford Institute" that did psych testing on the blood donors. Is that a DC Comics thing? If so, is that connected to any of the players in place this season?


DCJensen - Dec 13, 2013 2:19:00 pm PST #24145 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.

Ichabod really needs an iPad or the like with a Wikipedia app.

Maybe an iPad mini.


Typo Boy - Dec 13, 2013 3:58:17 pm PST #24146 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Product placement!