Lindsey: Why--why did you... Lorne: One last job. You're not part of the solution, Lindsey. You never will be. Lindsey: You kill me? A flunky?! I'm not just...Angel...kills me. You...Angel... Lorne: Good night, folks.

'Not Fade Away'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Amy - Dec 04, 2013 1:38:14 pm PST #24074 of 30001
Because books.

That's true. Except that how historically accurate do you want to be about everything? If they were really that accurate, not many of the people in Crane's time would have all their teeth, and the women would definitely not have such shiny, shiny hair.

I'm just saying, when it comes to storytelling in a limited-time format, like an episode of a TV show, expediency is going to play a role. And I still argue that the fact of the baby trumps how the baby came into the world, especially if it would mean using script time to explain a birthing stool, for instance.


Connie Neil - Dec 04, 2013 1:57:38 pm PST #24075 of 30001
brillig

They spent a lot of time on Jefferson and Sally Hemmings, citing DNA evidence and everything. To informed people, that's old news, but there are a lot of uninformed people who might have been as shocked as Crane. Plus showing the complexity of life during the Revolution. Someone somewhere is wondering "Was it really like that?" and is firing up a search engine--or even looking at a book!

I'll grant them glossing over authentic birth practices.


Steph L. - Dec 04, 2013 3:27:08 pm PST #24076 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Arrow: so, is Felicity's dress a Power Girl shout-out? It's making me giggle.


Vonnie K - Dec 04, 2013 3:31:48 pm PST #24077 of 30001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

I am an old fogie 'cause my main reaction to her dress was "that shit is unprofessional! Put the cleavage away!"


Steph L. - Dec 04, 2013 3:35:04 pm PST #24078 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Oh, totally unprofessional, but still making me giggle.

As is all the teasing at Barry Allen's origin story (mother's murder, taxi pulling away, lightning storm while he's handling chemicals).

I'm such a damn nerd.


Tom Scola - Dec 04, 2013 3:56:25 pm PST #24079 of 30001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Are they implying that Jay Garrick killed Barry Allen's father?


Vonnie K - Dec 04, 2013 4:15:08 pm PST #24080 of 30001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Huh. Moira said that guy's name! Ra'z something. Liam Neeson! (Don't look at me. I don't know anything about DC Comics).

I was weird seeing Oliver totally pwn'd in a fight. Poor stunt person! That looked like it hurt. Also, while I liked Barry, I was a bit cranky at how Felicity was all we need Barry for this and for that, when she was previously (totally unrealistically) capable of doing all sorts of chemical and biological analyses all by her own self.


Tom Scola - Dec 04, 2013 4:21:11 pm PST #24081 of 30001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Ra's al Ghul.


Steph L. - Dec 04, 2013 4:27:45 pm PST #24082 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Are they implying that Jay Garrick killed Barry Allen's father?

I was totally wondering that, unless it was supposed to be...whatshisname Thawne. Reverse Flash. (Who was maybe Barry Allen's secret twin, taken away at birth? I'm a little dodgy on his origin story.)

John Barrowman? STILL THE PRETTIEST.


Ginger - Dec 04, 2013 4:48:11 pm PST #24083 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

How much do I love them for that scene with the chemicals and the lightning? This much. I swear it's almost exactly the scene I remember from the comic.