Why couldn't you be dealing drugs like normal people?

Snyder ,'Empty Places'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Jessica - Nov 23, 2013 5:08:59 pm PST #23928 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Did anyone else wonder, given how similar the retro-fitted fate of Gallifrey is to the fate of the planet Krikkit - is being sealed in a pocket universe of frozen time something all BBC writers are secretly afraid of?


-t - Nov 23, 2013 5:20:45 pm PST #23929 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Maybe it's something they all secretly want.


§ ita § - Nov 23, 2013 5:51:32 pm PST #23930 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Eccleston could have been in a lot of places here, but not replacing John Hurt, Frank. That regeneration we saw when he stepped into his TARDIS leads directly to "Rose."


Connie Neil - Nov 23, 2013 7:00:45 pm PST #23931 of 30001
brillig

Tom!! I think Hubby and I were the only ones who recognized him when he showed up, given the average age of the audience.

Now to rewatch it sometime without people talking over good lones.


billytea - Nov 24, 2013 2:33:16 am PST #23932 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Peter Davidson, Sylvester McCoy, and Colin Baker. Pretty funny. I like how Davidson's kids are watching from behind the sofa.

That was hilarious.

I watched The Day of the Doctor in the company of my youngest brother, who stayed over last night to watch it (it screened at 6:50 a.m. here), and my little boy. He thought it was very funny, though he got a bit scared by the Zygons once and suggested at that point that we should turn the TV off because we'd been watching for a while and too much television is bad for your eyes. (He was ok after I took him out to the hallway for a minute or two and the scene changed.)

I enjoyed all the fan service greatly, being a fan after all. Chuffed to see the return of the Zygons. The story was entertaining enough, though I was less thrilled with Time War-Gallifrey being retconned from Timothy Dalton's engine of death and conquest to the galaxy's largest child nursery megaplex. Still, as spectacle it fit the bill.


billytea - Nov 24, 2013 2:36:00 am PST #23933 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Ha! I didn't notice this the first time round.

10th Doctor (re War Doctor): "Still, loving the posh, gravelly thing, it's very convincing."
11th Doctor: "Brave words, Dick Van Dyke."


Theodosia - Nov 24, 2013 2:50:31 am PST #23934 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I loved that, truly.

John Hurt may now be my favorite Doctor.


Trudy Booth - Nov 24, 2013 6:28:23 am PST #23935 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I figured Hurt was replacing Eccleston too. Obviously some things would have been different (like Billie) but Eccleston would have been the one that deployed The Moment and the other two wouldn't like him much for it. Instead of regenerating when he walked into the TARDIS at the end he'd have just split.

I wasn't sure what made him regenerate, actually, when he left. Presumably when he DID use The Moment that did the trick, but why did not using it do so? "So Eccleston could happen -- the timeline had to repair its self somehow " is a good enough answer for me so I'm not too concerned with it.

I'd have liked Eccleston to have been in it too... but I also like John Hurt's Doctor a lot and I like the notion of "he doesn't have to be so young anymore and now we can have Peter Capaldi" so I think the whole thing turned out nicely.

Oooh! Though I suppose if he HAD kept getting younger we could have had Rupert Grint... then we could have worked our way down to an infant who's crashed Tardis would have been found in a cornfield in Kansas and eventually he'd have a big fortress of solitude in Alaska with Suranne Jones talking to him instead of Brando.


§ ita § - Nov 24, 2013 6:41:47 am PST #23936 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Eccleston would have been the one that deployed The Moment

From Rose:

(The Doctor sees his reflection in a mirror, and behaves as if he's just regenerated and is just seeing himself for the first time.)
DOCTOR: Ah, could've been worse. Look at the ears.

Really think Eccleston was the War Doctor? I think the episode was pretty clear that he was new into the body.


beekaytee - Nov 24, 2013 6:57:06 am PST #23937 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

A Sunday Sweets diversion from Cake Wrecks with some mighty awesome Who inspired confections.

My personal favorite it the Tardis where you can see inside.