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'Dirty Girls'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

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This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


billytea - Nov 24, 2013 2:33:16 am PST #23932 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Peter Davidson, Sylvester McCoy, and Colin Baker. Pretty funny. I like how Davidson's kids are watching from behind the sofa.

That was hilarious.

I watched The Day of the Doctor in the company of my youngest brother, who stayed over last night to watch it (it screened at 6:50 a.m. here), and my little boy. He thought it was very funny, though he got a bit scared by the Zygons once and suggested at that point that we should turn the TV off because we'd been watching for a while and too much television is bad for your eyes. (He was ok after I took him out to the hallway for a minute or two and the scene changed.)

I enjoyed all the fan service greatly, being a fan after all. Chuffed to see the return of the Zygons. The story was entertaining enough, though I was less thrilled with Time War-Gallifrey being retconned from Timothy Dalton's engine of death and conquest to the galaxy's largest child nursery megaplex. Still, as spectacle it fit the bill.


billytea - Nov 24, 2013 2:36:00 am PST #23933 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Ha! I didn't notice this the first time round.

10th Doctor (re War Doctor): "Still, loving the posh, gravelly thing, it's very convincing."
11th Doctor: "Brave words, Dick Van Dyke."


Theodosia - Nov 24, 2013 2:50:31 am PST #23934 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I loved that, truly.

John Hurt may now be my favorite Doctor.


Trudy Booth - Nov 24, 2013 6:28:23 am PST #23935 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I figured Hurt was replacing Eccleston too. Obviously some things would have been different (like Billie) but Eccleston would have been the one that deployed The Moment and the other two wouldn't like him much for it. Instead of regenerating when he walked into the TARDIS at the end he'd have just split.

I wasn't sure what made him regenerate, actually, when he left. Presumably when he DID use The Moment that did the trick, but why did not using it do so? "So Eccleston could happen -- the timeline had to repair its self somehow " is a good enough answer for me so I'm not too concerned with it.

I'd have liked Eccleston to have been in it too... but I also like John Hurt's Doctor a lot and I like the notion of "he doesn't have to be so young anymore and now we can have Peter Capaldi" so I think the whole thing turned out nicely.

Oooh! Though I suppose if he HAD kept getting younger we could have had Rupert Grint... then we could have worked our way down to an infant who's crashed Tardis would have been found in a cornfield in Kansas and eventually he'd have a big fortress of solitude in Alaska with Suranne Jones talking to him instead of Brando.


§ ita § - Nov 24, 2013 6:41:47 am PST #23936 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Eccleston would have been the one that deployed The Moment

From Rose:

(The Doctor sees his reflection in a mirror, and behaves as if he's just regenerated and is just seeing himself for the first time.)
DOCTOR: Ah, could've been worse. Look at the ears.

Really think Eccleston was the War Doctor? I think the episode was pretty clear that he was new into the body.


beekaytee - Nov 24, 2013 6:57:06 am PST #23937 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

A Sunday Sweets diversion from Cake Wrecks with some mighty awesome Who inspired confections.

My personal favorite it the Tardis where you can see inside.


Jessica - Nov 24, 2013 7:28:40 am PST #23938 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Eccleston was never interested in coming back to this show and has been pretty clear about it in the press. If he's been in this ep, he would have filled the David Tennant role of "post-War Doctor Doctor with clear memories of killing all the Time Lords and is still pretty upset about it." (Which I think would have made a lot more sense, emotional arc-wise, but it's not like I'm going to complain too much about an extra hour of David Tennant on my screen.)

John Hurt could have been conceivably replaced by Paul McGann (discarding the extra non-numbered regeneration altogether), but I don't hear any fans clamouring for that.


§ ita § - Nov 24, 2013 7:41:52 am PST #23939 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

And what Miz Jessica said.

I am sad that Eccleston wants no more of the property, but not mad. That having been said, how can I tweak his IMDB "known for" section? I REALLY WANNA...


Consuela - Nov 24, 2013 7:46:40 am PST #23940 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Eccleston was never interested in coming back to this show and has been pretty clear about it in the press.

I recall seeing some commentary several years ago: he disliked working for (I assume) RTD (no names were used) because he felt the atmosphere on the set was abusive--not necessarily to him, possibly, but to the rest of the crew. If that's true, I can see why he would be sufficiently disenchanted by the whole experience to want nothing more to do with it.

Pity, that. But I can't fault him sticking by his principles, even though he's my favorite of the new Doctors.


Nora Deirdre - Nov 24, 2013 8:10:49 am PST #23941 of 30001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

I wasn't surprised that Eccleston wasn't there, given his press about the DW experience. He'd been firm from the moment it was made public he was moving on that he'd be happy to leave all that behind.

Still, as Consuela says, he's my favorite doctor, and I'd have loved to see a complete regeneration from the War Doctor into him. I guess since it was so emphatically NOT going to happen, I was quietly wishing that it was a smokescreen that it WOULD happen. Heh. Foilers! t River Song voice

ION, WTF Amazon? Apparently it was $4.99 to purchase the Day of the Doctor earlier this morning (which is outrageous for a TV show to begin with) but when I went to get it, it's now $6.99! I am annoyed.