Sometimes I miss having powers... Oh. Oh! I know what this is! This is peer pressure! Any second now you're gonna make me smoke tobacco and--and have drugs!

Anya ,'Showtime'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


brenda m - Oct 20, 2013 2:42:49 pm PDT #23479 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Yes, with either of those I will pick that show right back up.


aurelia - Oct 20, 2013 5:15:00 pm PDT #23480 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

When Aaron figures out how to control the fireflies he might qualify.


Typo Boy - Oct 20, 2013 9:32:54 pm PDT #23481 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

BTW (and regarding nothing in the last few days of discussion) haven't they kind of changed the rule of the Crocker family trouble this season on Haven? Last season it seemed as though if an activated Crocker touched blood of the troubled, that killed the troubled person regardless of whether the wound would otherwise have been fatal. But this season touching vampire blood blob hurt it but did not kill it, and touch Mr. 15 minutes blood did not kill him. Even with the Jordan murder, it seemed like Other Crocker had to stab Jordan fatally in order to kill her. Maybe I'm remembering the previous season's rules wrong.


le nubian - Oct 20, 2013 9:49:37 pm PDT #23482 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Typo,

I don't remember if blood touching killed the person. I remember that Crocker was empowered, but not that it killed the person.


Typo Boy - Oct 20, 2013 9:55:58 pm PDT #23483 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Well I'm certain that to end a family trouble, one person with the trouble currently activated had to be killed, and the blood touch an active Crocker before death. As to the whether just having blood touch a Crocker killed the person - like you not certain, though I seem to remember it that way. (Given my memory, does not mean a hell of a lot.)


le nubian - Oct 20, 2013 10:26:15 pm PDT #23484 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

yes, I think that the Crocker had to kill the troubled person and while killing get some of the person's blood on their skin. That kills the troubles down the family line.

Too bad the person killed at the end of the ep didn't seem to have family to speak of. I was so tired of her at that point that I wanted her dead.


§ ita § - Oct 21, 2013 5:05:06 am PDT #23485 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I thought the Crocker had to then kill them, myself. That they got charged up, and this was something Duke didn't like doing, but couldn't resist easily once the pull of the blood was on him.

Jordan was supremely annoying. Enough that I wanted her cured of her trouble but not killed so that a lot of wind would be taken out of her whiny sails, but then she'd have still been on the show, so this way is probably better.


sj - Oct 21, 2013 5:31:33 am PDT #23486 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I though the troubled person has to die to kill the trouble for the family, but that absorbing some of the troubled blood would end the trouble for that person.


§ ita § - Oct 21, 2013 5:41:52 am PDT #23487 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

but that absorbing some of the troubled blood would end the trouble for that person.

Didn't he kill the body-jumper to end his personal trouble? They could have engineered a different ending to it if they'd just needed his blood.


Connie Neil - Oct 21, 2013 8:07:20 am PDT #23488 of 30001
brillig

Sleepy Hollow is pre-empted tonight, right?