I hate to break it to you, oh impotent one, but you're not the big bad anymore, you're not even the kind of naughty.

Xander ,'Showtime'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Steph L. - Oct 11, 2013 9:39:12 pm PDT #23344 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Finally watched Arrow. Pretty damn good.

I feel like deliberately mentioning Laurel's sister early in the episode is setting her up to be Black Canary.

Laurel's makeover is fairly horrible. We get it, she's all jaded and hard and lost her compassion. Does that have to mean 80s streaked hair and all the makeup in the world? Oh honey, no.

Also, fuckyeahWalter!

Red hoodie Roy will never not make me grin.

Finally, I can't suspend my disbelief enough to buy Thea running an entire successful nightclub.


Typo Boy - Oct 11, 2013 10:39:30 pm PDT #23345 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Yeah, I get the feeling that we are supposed to attribute Thea's being all responsible to the power of the penis.(Or twue luv) Which supports rather than detracts from your point about the unbelievability of Thea now successfully running the nightclub.


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 12, 2013 12:15:05 am PDT #23346 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

How exactly is she home to know that Roy is out patrolling the streets? Wouldn't running a night club be a job that keeps her working at, y'know, night?


DCJensen - Oct 12, 2013 4:32:37 am PDT #23347 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.

So Oliver can now come and go as he wants from the island that he had to spend years trying to escape the first time?

Gilligan and company opened a resort...


§ ita § - Oct 12, 2013 5:46:36 am PDT #23348 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

l assumed that Thea succeeded at running the club because of the changes that came from a) her job b) the Glades c) Oliver disappearing. Roy did not even occur to me.

Why wouldn't Ohio be able to work out where he was? What would make the island inherently inaccessible? A cloaking device? Moving around? Other people could get there and he has massive resources,


sj - Oct 12, 2013 5:58:00 am PDT #23349 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

l assumed that Thea succeeded at running the club because of the changes that came from a) her job b) the Glades c) Oliver disappearing. Roy did not even occur to me.

Same here. Also, not having any parentals around, so she needed to step up and take care of herself.


§ ita § - Oct 12, 2013 6:37:58 am PDT #23350 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If there is an ovary-up scenario, Thea is in one. Good on her.

Haven: boo no Colin. I knew he wasn't in every episode but I hadn't done the math. I did like the last minute Audrey reveal. I was expecting that to be slower, whatever it was, that stretched out the premise.They do have the show's end hovering absurdly over every minute of it,

l have no idea what pain! Rogue has in mind for other-Crocker ( he could be troubled too, right?). But he does need to be woven into the plot again. And she needs some subtlety, Lord knows.


Typo Boy - Oct 12, 2013 11:20:10 am PDT #23351 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

She knows Roy is running around in costume because unlike Oliver, he is not stupid enough to keep important parts of his life from the people he loves and knows he can trust.


§ ita § - Oct 12, 2013 12:52:52 pm PDT #23352 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Smart enough to spare himself the grief Roy is getting, though.


Typo Boy - Oct 12, 2013 5:33:50 pm PDT #23353 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

The nagging Roy is getting beats the tongue lashing Oliver will get when Thea finds out he is the Hood/Arrow/Green Arrow.

BTW, now that Oliver has decided to try not killing, I wonder if there is any chance we will get a boxing glove arrow?