Oh, wow. This place looks great. Oh, I feel like a witch in a magic shop.

Willow ,'Help'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


§ ita § - Sep 23, 2013 6:58:50 pm PDT #23118 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

"It's hard to explain."


beekaytee - Sep 24, 2013 9:29:57 am PDT #23119 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

I'm glad to see John Cho back and I absolutely adored the attention paid to his physicality.

His neck put me in mind of the "E'gar suit" from Men in Black.

I like that he's a conflicted henchman but it makes me wonder...how is it that so many characters in fiction choose to hang out with 'the master' in exchange for some future reward.

DUDE. Have you _never_ see a tv show or read a book? The ones who want to rule the world tend to only focus on the tribulation portion of the program. It's never "let's have fuzzy bunnies for all!"


beekaytee - Sep 24, 2013 9:31:07 am PDT #23120 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

"It's hard to explain."

"I got more fathering in those five minutes than I got in my whole life."

There are some great lines.


§ ita § - Sep 24, 2013 9:51:49 am PDT #23121 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I love how fucking snippy this show is. I hope they keep it up.

Ichabod railing about taxes and Abbie shutting him down was a lot of fun.

The ones who want to rule the world tend to only focus on the tribulation portion of the program. It's never "let's have fuzzy bunnies for all!"

That's why you need to be the best henchman ever! You want to be the one that gets the good outfit and keeps his or her head. It's stressful, the outfits on the side of evil do tend to be snazzier.

I ran searches on some of the producers during the opening credits. I found an Orci relative and a black guy whose previous gig was Southland. I don't usually look up new names, but I'm interested in the team behind this.

And would love (she says, asking for the world) background ethnic people. Like, extras with two lines. Complicated if you're only focussing on the white familes from the Rev war like this ep--only if they kept on being white.


EpicTangent - Sep 24, 2013 10:17:27 am PDT #23122 of 30001
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty

It's stressful, the outfits on the side of evil do tend to be snazzier.

'Cept no lame - the evil ones can't pull it off.


§ ita § - Sep 24, 2013 10:21:54 am PDT #23123 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

'Cept no lame - the evil ones can't pull it off.

My instinctive reaction is to suggest that British sci fi would beg to differ, but I am too distracted to search through Doctor Who and Blake's 7 footage (for starters) to illustrate my point.


Jessica - Sep 24, 2013 10:25:23 am PDT #23124 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

The Apple has plenty of evil lamé outfits.


EpicTangent - Sep 24, 2013 10:48:12 am PDT #23125 of 30001
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty

I was quoting - or possibly misquoting going from your responses?

Anyway, on the evil ones it gets camp.


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 24, 2013 10:59:08 am PDT #23126 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Works for the goa'ould.


beekaytee - Sep 24, 2013 11:22:28 am PDT #23127 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

That's why you need to be the best henchman ever! You want to be the one that gets the good outfit and keeps his or her head. It's stressful, the outfits on the side of evil do tend to be snazzier.

But, you see, they always _think_ they are going to keep their heads but never seem too.

Case in point, Snapped Neck Johnny ought to have headed for the hills as soon as he was resurrected. If BossHorns is gonna be so cavalier with the location of your head, chances are good you won't actually keep it in the end. Plus, all manner of suffering before the inevitable.

I rewatched the first Prophesy movie (I have a condition) last night and _those_ henchmen were, I think, a much truer representation of your average henchperson's working conditions.

Works for the goa'ould.

No KIDDING...along with the fabulous eye makeup, huge pendulum earrings, skirts on guys and awesomely arranged hair. The snake heads wurked it.