Ah, the pitter patter of tiny feet in huge combat boots. Shut up!

Mal ,'War Stories'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


sj - May 04, 2013 5:02:40 pm PDT #22514 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I've never seen The Vampire Diaries or Supernatural.


§ ita § - May 04, 2013 5:15:25 pm PDT #22515 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The text of TVD has no particular moral compass, which was a big issue for me, since I kept forcing do-gooding onto it, and it is about relationships with people who are witches and vampires and werewolves, and they only fight people who present a short term threat to their relationships.

Once you get grounded in Buffy's morality and even Angel's greyness...well, once I was grounded in that, I surprised myself with how hard it was to let go. Supernatural has much more greyness, but it also acknowledges greyness and hypocrisy. TVD plain old doesn't care.

I have gotten into a few arguments with people who cite TVD as being strong in the ramifications department, but I disagree quite vehemently--there's no moral requirement from the show's mythos nor an enforcement structure that punishes people that go astray.

Anyone can die, it's true, but that's also remarkably repercussion-free, IMO. And I'll go script to script with anyone who says the same of SPN.

When I think of any of the above mentioned shows, though, there definitely is charisma--some sort of strong character/persona evoked in just about any episode to have a reaction to even if canon means nothing to you. Grimm had very little of that, and the mythos came across as confusing, not enticing.

But every show has that sort of episode. So I don't know what I was looking at.

Oh, hey! Brady on Orphan Black. And he's called Chad, which is even more Brady than Brady.

Aw, man, why don't my favourite favourite shows have more plastic hot pants??? I have a plastic hot pant-shaped hole in my life.


Jessica - May 04, 2013 5:41:50 pm PDT #22516 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

GodDAMN, Orphan Black was good tonight. For a show this serious and tense, they do farce really really well.


Trudy Booth - May 04, 2013 8:15:02 pm PDT #22517 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

"Horse! You have failed in your mission!"

Orphan Black continues to be wonderful. I agree about the farce. And never do I think of those characters as the same woman. Never mix them up even for a second. It's really marvelous.


§ ita § - May 05, 2013 10:27:41 am PDT #22518 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Did Tom Tom pay off in any further way? That seemed to be a lot of work for a pretty obscured punchline.

Uh, Doctor Who, for context's sake.


-t - May 05, 2013 10:45:00 am PDT #22519 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Oh, ha, I thought it was a Thomas Guide reference.


§ ita § - May 05, 2013 10:53:31 am PDT #22520 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If they have Thomas Guides in the UK, they're new. The standard in the 80s was called "the ay to zed'. Not sure what it was named, though. But him speaking snapped my attention round, since I processed "GPS unit directions" before I worked out what it had to do with Doctor Who. So Thomas Thomas fell into my lap with that context, but so much dialogue for a chuckle alone...


Jon B. - May 05, 2013 11:03:51 am PDT #22521 of 30001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Oh, jeez, I just got it. Yeah, that was way to much work.


Strix - May 05, 2013 1:54:56 pm PDT #22522 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

OK, I've worked my way through Orphan Black. I am so impressed with how the lead actress makes the characters so distinct!

I like it very much so far. Paul looks like Michael Vartan; they have the same Frenchy, thin but arched nose. That's a great nose. /shallow


beekaytee - May 05, 2013 2:54:55 pm PDT #22523 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

I thought it was a Thomas Guide reference.

This is what I thought!

And now, I don't get it at all.

nevermind. google abides.