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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Typo Boy - Feb 11, 2013 9:20:01 pm PST #22144 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

So Bo was the one to finally spot that Kenzie was possessed? Did Trick miss the flashing neon sign that lit up when Kenzie did not know about their deal that she got free drinks as payment for negotiating help with bird lady?


Typo Boy - Feb 11, 2013 9:22:40 pm PST #22145 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

In terms of porn science - Lauren and Johnsons?


§ ita § - Feb 11, 2013 9:36:50 pm PST #22146 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Kenzie was so freaking off, though. The way she piped up with those nuggets of information--first off it was terribly consistent of her, but I don't expect them to notice that. But her delivery was all off. Where's the bubbly Kenzi that everyone is so amused/entranced/exasperated by. She needed to have more fun, make more fun, grab at more fun. And secret telling is a perfect time to regress your persona, as she so adores.

Every episode I come away with a generalise want for her outfits, and dammit--I may finally have found clothes worn normally by adults that I think are too young for me. Real sad.


Typo Boy - Feb 11, 2013 10:08:00 pm PST #22147 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Kenzie was so freaking off, though.

Maybe that was purposeful - a way of showing that this was not Kenzie, but the parasite in control. It is just that Bo is so self-involved, I would not expect her to notice.


§ ita § - Feb 12, 2013 5:39:11 am PST #22148 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

My point is that it was purposeful. And it wasn't just Bo that didn't notice. She did her truth-telling schtick to more than just her, but it took peanuts before anyone thought she was odd.

I'd be depressed if it took that long for people to notice I was off.


§ ita § - Feb 12, 2013 12:10:02 pm PST #22149 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't watch Talking Dead, but I did see this comment about this week's ep, which I thought interesting (and cool):

Can we all just talk about how on The Talking Dead last night, Steven Yeun spoke knowledgeably about the need for sexual assault survivors to have empowerment and how his character speaking over his survivor girlfriend and trying to make decisions for her is actually re-victimization instead of defending it with “Well he’s upset”?


sumi - Feb 12, 2013 12:18:13 pm PST #22150 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

S.H.I.E.L.D. pilot wraps production.


le nubian - Feb 12, 2013 12:18:21 pm PST #22151 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Walking Dead needs to get get some writers to address the race and gender issues in the scripts. It is really bad and can no longer be ignored.


Typo Boy - Feb 12, 2013 12:19:43 pm PST #22152 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

My point is that it was purposeful. And it wasn't just Bo that didn't notice. She did her truth-telling schtick to more than just her, but it took peanuts before anyone thought she was odd.

Gotcha. Not just Bo who really doesn't pay Kenzie much attention. Of course this is one of those things I sometimes think the writers get right on purpose even while getting lots wrong - the "show not tell" thing. Everyone, including Bo, treats Kenzie as a pet not a person. They love her like a pet though Bo is not a particularly good pet-owner. As Trick said last episode "she's not one of us". Hale is sincerely trying to get past that, but he was raised to it. Bo, for someone who claims not be accepting Fae bullshit, picked it up fast.


le nubian - Feb 12, 2013 12:27:32 pm PST #22153 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Bo has other issues though: she didn't have friends until Kenzie and thus she isn't supposed to have great social skills, esp with long-term relationships. I am not sure she treats her the way she does due to status differential, but because she's kind of oblivious.

Or supposed to be.