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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Shir - Dec 26, 2012 12:16:07 am PST #21918 of 30001
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

I'm in complete agreement with bonny's adoration and the remarkable convenience of the worm. As for Strax, he's like the little voice in my head. Only on screen. Fabulous. It may be simple level of humor, but I enjoy him, especially when the Doctor's giving a cold shoulder.

Watching that episode was like meeting an old friend, and slowly remembering her flaws despite past positive feelings. It had some of the charm and the sense of wonder, sure, but some things irked me, or just reminded me why I really dislike Moffat as showrunner. The mocking of "Victorian values" by telling while promoting them by showing was a bit "what, really? Are you that blind/stupid?". And yet. The ladder from the skies. Carla's red dress (so far, I like her. I hope she'll develop more depth, though.) Little magical/aesthetical things that made me smile.

Also, I really liked the snowflakes with the teeth. Made me think instantly on "frostbites". Since it doesn't get really cold where I live, I only had literature to describe really really cold weather, and I remember it being described as a bite. Never really been in such a cold weather to appreciate that, and then that lovely imagery came.


Jon B. - Dec 26, 2012 5:42:02 am PST #21919 of 30001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Don't need to whitefont, people. It aired in the US.


beekaytee - Dec 26, 2012 6:42:19 am PST #21920 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

That's my bad, Jon. I whitefonted because I saw the episode before a lot of others here might.

Sorry for leading you astray, Shir...and I agree with everything you said.

Upon reflection, the bitey snowflakes were my favorite part.

(Shir, my dog once had frost bite and it is aptly named. The cold can actually destroy tissue, which can remove parts of you, just like a bite. And people often refer to a very cold wind as 'biting.')

I, too, found the bashing of Victorian values totally annoying. Say it once, okay, but that particular riff seemed to go on and on in my head. Must rewatch.

I'm actually interested to see how Souffle Girl's secret gets played out...though I hope it does not take a long as River's.


beekaytee - Dec 26, 2012 9:40:14 am PST #21921 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

DW: In the 'bow ties are cool' scene, I think Matt was doing his best Bill Nighy impression. Seriously. It was spot on.


DCJensen - Dec 26, 2012 11:31:26 am PST #21922 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.

Andi and I were discussing Souffle girl, and I'm wondering about her ability to download herself into history.

It makes me want it to turn out she's River after Silence in the Library, trying to get out.


Tom Scola - Dec 26, 2012 11:36:22 am PST #21923 of 30001
hwæt

Is this going to be a regular thing? "Oh, my God! They killed Kenny Oswin! You Bastards"


tiggy - Dec 26, 2012 12:40:43 pm PST #21924 of 30001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

Is this going to be a regular thing? "Oh, my God! They killed Kenny Oswin! You Bastards"

they already did that with Rory though.


Tom Scola - Dec 26, 2012 12:49:45 pm PST #21925 of 30001
hwæt

No, I was thinking they could kill off Jenna-Louise Coleman's character every single episode.


Dana - Dec 26, 2012 12:52:45 pm PST #21926 of 30001
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."

I was kind of wondering that too, which would be slightly hilarious.


Vonnie K - Dec 26, 2012 12:56:03 pm PST #21927 of 30001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

There was a lot of eye-rolling on my part that they AGAIN had the Doctor and the new companion macking this early in their acquaintance.

That felt wee bit too frantic, although mostly enjoyable. I am confused about Clara's part-time barmaid / part-time governess set-up, but had fun with subversion of the whole Turn-of-the-Screw scenario. Favourite bits were the Mr. Alien Potato-head (Stranx?) and the Madame Lizard Detective and Jenny. Am a bit concerned about Clara/Oswin because I don't think I can take this level of HYPER-SAUCY-DIALED-TO-11 all the time. Spirited and resourceful, yes. But the aggressively flirty banter between the two wearied me.