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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Polter-Cow - Nov 28, 2012 8:54:46 am PST #21773 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I haven't seen everything! I haven't even seen The West Wing, but I am rectifying that soon.


Steph L. - Nov 28, 2012 3:09:14 pm PST #21774 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Arrow: (1) shirtless Ollie, 7 minutes in. (2) Bertinelli crime family. Which means (3) Helena Bertinelli HELL YES.


aurelia - Nov 28, 2012 3:11:16 pm PST #21775 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Abrams told Braun that there wasn't quite enough there for a series, but suggested that "The island has to be a character in the show, and something's wrong with the island." Braun agreed, so long as Abrams promised to keep things in the realm of "scientific fact" and have an explanation for everything.

Hahahaha!

I know a lot of shows have tried to be the next Lost, but I kind of feel like Revolution is. Not necessarily in business terms, but in the storytelling and style (and logic). Giancarlo Esposito is totally the Locke of the series.


Steph L. - Nov 28, 2012 3:15:05 pm PST #21776 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

And Tamoh Penikett, woo! (Still Arrow.)


Steph L. - Nov 28, 2012 4:01:58 pm PST #21777 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Okay, that episode of Arrow? REALLY GOOD. I'm pleased on so many levels.


Typo Boy - Nov 30, 2012 12:20:45 pm PST #21778 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Arrow seems definitely willing to kill, unlike Batman. Is that the series only, or was that comic book canon as well? In general they are aiming for real darkness in the character. Again is that the series only, or was that the aim in much of the comic book series? (Of course I know comic book characters get rebooted a lot, but ... )


Tom Scola - Nov 30, 2012 12:59:09 pm PST #21779 of 30001
hwæt

Green Arrow has been all over the map in the comics; yes, the dark has been done, but certainly not consistently.

But if you're not going to have him using trick arrows like he does in the comics, you kind of need to have him using deadly force to be seen as a threat.


§ ita § - Nov 30, 2012 1:38:48 pm PST #21780 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

How tricky are the Green Arrow's arrows these days in the comics? Have the suffered the gritting of America?

I really really wish I liked how Amell is acting more--I don't know if the best he can do, or if it's precisely what he's asked to do, but I don't feel myself particularly caught up in his anything. I mean, everyone else is more interesting, BUT--good lord, is he not only buff like a brick shithouse, there isn't another guy on network TV doing more show off stuff that's clearly them (Alex O'Loughlin, eat your heart out). I'd love to be emotionally invested in that, instead of coolly regarding.

I like Diggle, who was severely underused this week, I like Speedy and her teenaged rebellion and actually caring for her mother and brother during the whole thing. I kinda don't like Dinah, but that's the role of the hard as nails lawyer with a heart of gold and a past with the male lead. But I really like how gung ho they seem to be going with her and Merlyn without demonising either of them--I really hope that they're not building that up for a reveal of same.

Not properly getting a feel for Steele, which is a shame, because I adore Salmon (not that fungus growing under his bottom lip, tho--kill it with fire) under normal circumstances. And I want more Paul Blackthorne too--I wish there were more excuses to get more guys in hot and steamy (or exercisey--my bar is wide) positions.

And I'm assuming that was Kelly Hu in the trailer, right? I have been in love with her forever, and it creeps me out that she seems to be the same age since, uh, Melrose Place. The first one.


Steph L. - Nov 30, 2012 1:39:08 pm PST #21781 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

if you're not going to have him using trick arrows like he does in the comics

Oh, how I long for just one boxing-glove arrow. JUST ONE.


Steph L. - Nov 30, 2012 1:41:49 pm PST #21782 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

But I really like how gung ho they seem to be going with her and Merlyn without demonising either of them--I really hope that they're not building that up for a reveal of same.

I'm ALL ABOUT Tommy and Dinah. I'm a little surprised at how invested in them I am. Mostly because of Tommy, I think.

I want more Paul Blackthorne too

I like Cop Daddy, but I wish they'd back off the I Hate The Queen Family schtick.

In conclusion, holy crap, Jack Harkness is Tommy's dad! What a pretty, pretty family.