A ghost? What's the deal? Is every frat on this campus haunted? And if so, why do people keep coming to these parties, cause it's not the snacks.

Xander ,'Dirty Girls'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


sj - Nov 15, 2012 11:51:22 am PST #21689 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

tiggy, I haven't read the graphic novels, but that is weird.


§ ita § - Nov 15, 2012 12:07:27 pm PST #21690 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't know why I've fought so hard against concluding that Penikett (You were right! Unlike me and Sienkewicz....wait I got that right first try, 25 years later) can't act. But, really--maybe that's why people thought Dushku was acting fine--because her love interest was a gorgeous gorgeous hunk of finely crafted wood. NO EMOTION.


Polter-Cow - Nov 15, 2012 12:24:24 pm PST #21691 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

spoiler-y link for The Walking Dead casting. i'm...confused.

Iiiiinteresting. And, hm, I wasn't really a fan of the character the suspected actor is best known for, but I didn't think he was a bad actor, so I am all for this.


Steph L. - Nov 15, 2012 2:03:45 pm PST #21692 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Yeah, I don't think Penikett can act, but he is hunky. And does a lot of his own fight scenes, which is cool.


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 15, 2012 4:57:55 pm PST #21693 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

He was able to convince me that his Dollhouse character was a moron with tunnel vision. That's what he was shooting for, right?


§ ita § - Nov 15, 2012 6:04:59 pm PST #21694 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Gimme a call when he takes a role shooting for anything else.

I find Arrow okay enough CW fluff, except...except for the arrogance Ollie displays when he's training. He had 5 years. It was a really hard five years, clearly traumatic if nothing had happened beyond his father's pointed suicide, but I don't think that he's gained the right to talk to Diggle that way. It makes me want to see Diggle outwit him at every turn, not just to get hospital bills paid for.


Typo Boy - Nov 15, 2012 7:04:01 pm PST #21695 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Before Ollie was shipwrecked he as totally an arrogant ass. I would assume that is not necessarily something you lose. So the island changed him, but he still has a big streak of arrogant ass. In short I don't read this as the writers want us to sympathize with his talking to Diggle that way.


§ ita § - Nov 15, 2012 7:09:29 pm PST #21696 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I do read it as supported by the text, because the times when he's arrogant in the real world, the response to him is judgey, and we get that he's a real boy, deep inside.

When he's arrogant in training, it comes across as paired with being decisive, and it's too close to flashbacks of great privation, and it goes unusurped. It is possible the text is subtle and there's a long term payoff but...no, I don't feel it coming.

As for Vampire Diaries I actually, literally felt sick tonight. I am stupid, this should have happened before, but they killed the black hunter a couple eps back and they killed the black hybrid today, and they continuous Negro death parade as well as the absolute moral void at the centre of the show (it's a vortex of self-indulgence and short term satisfaction) and I just feel grungey.

I'm sufficiently fidgety that I just liked having something between 8 and 9 on Thursday, but seriously--fuck you.


§ ita § - Nov 16, 2012 6:04:47 am PST #21697 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

And of course I shouldn't have ranted on IO9 too, because all of the "Racism? U MAD?" I'm sure to get...1 so far.

Whatever. They don't need to introduce and kill black characters like that, because *they* have no balance, and the genre doesn't have balance, and the US doesn't have balance. There is NO reason they can't have black characters be the ones that stick around longer. Bonnie's supposed to be in the core group, but how often is she even *with* the core group?


sumi - Nov 16, 2012 6:15:23 am PST #21698 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Yeah, they keep introducing black characters and then making them peripheral at which point they get killed off.

It's too bad they didn't kill off Luxe's nemesis from Secret Circle.

ETA: I kept on cutting them slack but you're right: they've used up all their breaks and need to do something.

OTOH, you can totally watch Last Resort (or as I keep wanting to call it "Lost Resort") in the same time frame).