sj, I thought that was what happened at the end.

Eddie Izzard was definitely the best thing about it.

Mockingbird Lane was...it was more Addams Family than Munsters. Which, you know, is cool because I always liked the Addams more than the Munsters but...Munsters was always about how normal they were despite the fact that they were monsters. This was more like a halfway between mashup. Which I guess could have been good as a series hook.

I would have loved to have seen Colin as Herman. That would have been great. But nobody is going to top Fred Gwynne. Fred Gwynne rocks!!

I agree more like Adams Family than Munsters. But not really like Adams family either. I don't think there was a vision for this show. I mean Fuller did not want to follow the original theme, where they were externally monsters but in their thoughts and in their hearts a normal suburban family with a crazy uncle grandpa. And he did not want to follow the Adams family model where they were proud of what they were and considered the rest of the world the weird ones.

And probably he was setting up long term conflicts between a desire on the part of everyone except Grandpa to be normal with complete inability to BE normal. (I include Marilyn in that, because even though she lacked supernatural abilities she seemed to think like a Munster. Grandpa's murderousness is just one of his little ways, not something she likes, but not something she expects to stop) And that conflict would have been largely but not entirely in the form of conflicts between the rest of the family and Grandpa. But I don't think Fuller really had a feel for his characters or his world. None of them gave me the sense of "real people in weird situations" the characters in Pushing Daisies mostly gave me.

I'll admit there were some great scenes. White mist condenses into nude Lily Munster who is dressed by hundreds of jillifonts dropping on her and spinning her a white dress. That managed to be erotic and creepy at the same time. Izzard was great, and they all had moments. But mostly it felt forced and not very interesting.

Godammit, Fringe, why you gotta be so sad? At least they haven't killed Broyles again. So far.

Pondering it a bit more, after Typo's comments, Grandpa was an Addams and the rest of the family were way too self-conscious Munsters. Herman should be blithely oblivious to his nature, and this one was constantly thinking and worrying about it.

I was thinking the same thing about the differences between the Hermans.

Gwynne's unselfconscious innocence would not play well in this day and cynical age...I think. So the 'he loves too hard' seems an appropriate compromise.

I totally agree that Grandpa is very Addams. In fact, I actually found myself looking for Wednesday at one point.

Spot being visible shook me out of the story, for some reason.

Ah, the difference in the technological ages. Invisible dragon vs. cgi.

Yvonne Decarlo's Lily was much more the head of the family, which is the role Eddie seems to be taking over. I can't say that I mind that, really.

I loved his transformation at the end being presented without comment.

Ah, the difference in the technological ages. Invisible dragon vs. cgi.

I thought Spot was just never clearly shown due to budget contraints rather than actually invisible. I seem to recall seeing eyes in those scenes where they opened the stairs to reveal him breathing flames, and maybe a tail slipping past an open doorway a time or two?

Now that you mention it...I think you are right about the tail. I'd forgotten that.

...it's been a loooong time.

Once upon a Time: I'm glad they introduced Dr. Victor Von Frankenstein, because the show has really been suffering lately from not having enough characters for us to follow...

Ha!